Israel, UAE to normalize relations in shift in Mideast politics; West Bank annexations on hold

War doesn't need to be just by using weapons. Trump did have war with China, Iran, Venezuela

 

It's not even like UAE is having some sort of trading with Israel according to this deal. And UAE didn't care less about palestinians even before this deal.
So overall it's just a sham playing by Israel in helping Trump's re"election".

 

If its a sham why is the UAE "playing along" and why are other ME countries now getting involved?

 

Why shouldn't UAE and other arab countries of persian gulf play along? After all they are all US allies and they haven't done anything to defy Israel's interests since Israel and arab states war. It's a long time that there's nothing left of arab states' animosity towards Israel. And infact they're all Israel's allies through the US.
One way or another this taboo had to break.
And interstingly they mention this in US as a long step for bringing peace to the region when infact it will only cause more tension regarding Iran.
UAE has more to lose than to gain from this deal since UAE is a battle ground for US and hightening the tension will mean less security for them.But if they are playing along the best guess is that they seek trading with jews in the future. Don't forget jews have more money than anyone in the world.
The obvious outcome of this deal is just an opening for foxnows to just brag about Trump's another accomplishment. Remember the summit with Kim jong un, what was it's outcome? NOTHING, only an opening for FOX.

 

Or maybe the UAE realized that they'd rather have Israel as an ally when dealing with Obama's Iran.

 

He's making more progress in the ME than we have seen in decades.

This is important for the world, and a check against Iran's expansionism and China's move into Iran.

 

I don't see any equality between the two sides of this word.

 

What kind of progress? The battles are still there and even Yemen has been added to the equation. Facilitating a deal which was there just not on the paper is not such a progress to brag about.
About Iran/China deal, they're free to do any kind of deal with each other . There's nothing to do with US about it.
There's no doubt about the brutality of Iran's priests but isn't US the first and world renowned expansionist. This whole "Iran's gaining territory in the region" drama began with US uninvited presense in the region and unstablization of Iraq by that.

 

Destroying the defacto state of ISIS.

Taking out the leaders of several terrorist groups.

Drawing down the US presence.

Yemen is more or less a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Peace agreements between Israel and several arab states as a check against Iran and China is a good thing.

And make no mistake-Iran is the one stirring things up-from terrorist acts, to its expansion in Syria and Yemen, to its acceptance of China into the region.

As for the US being expansionist we could have owned most of asia and europe in the aftermath of WW2. We didn't.

 

It is a nothing. Look at a map and see how far apart the two are!!!! The UAE has zero influence over Palestine or Israel. The US has artificial influence over Israel ONLY so long as it suits Israel.

 

Why should acceptance of China by Iran be such a tragedy but acceptance of US by arabs shouldn't. As far as I know it's US that has military bases in persian gulf and other ME countries. And as we know China is a very developed country with a good tech. And Iran/China deal is all about economical issues not military.

US never could have done it. What would the other allied forces do? Sit back and watch US enjoying the booties? And most of asia and europe's value is nothing compare to ME with more than half of the world's oil. They did invade Iraq because of oil and caused all these unstablizations there's no denying it.

First ISIS is NOT distroyed. To this day they are conducting their operations in Iraq, Syria,Yemen ,Afghanistan and even Africa.
Second, fighting ISIS was not all on US, many countries were involved even Iran played an importand role in fighting them. But americans have a powerful media to brag about every thing . They're really good at it.
Third, ISIS was produced by US ( Obama) sth I believe you and I are in agreement with. They cause the production of ISIS out of the vacuum of power in Iraq and they made trillions by buying the cheap oil sold by ISIS. So that's all about oil again.

They're still present in every corner of middle east. They're never gonna leave because they can't leave all that oil behind. They're reducing their troops and increasing them again when have the right cause. The cause that they will produce themsalves.
For example reducing their troops and production of ISIS and then coming back and increasing troops to fight ISIS .

Back to the issue. How's that a good thing? It's not gonna do any change. It will only heighten the tensions regarding Iran, and UAE will never stay in sync with Israel when it feels unsecure due to this tensions. They're not stupid to be the battle ground of Israel against Iran.
So this deal is just a piece of paper and will have two effects .
First arabs will seek trading with the jews ( they're really wealthy) and bring that money to their own economy. Which is a good thing even for Iran since many iranians are in constant trading with arabs due to the lack of everything in the deserted arab countries except oil.
Second, An opportunity for Trump to go cap in hand to the media for some votes.

 

The US at the end of WW2 had an enormous military that surrounded the USSR, and this little thing called nukes.

The STATE of ISIS is gone, that is to say there is not a geographical area under its control, with its currency, and laws.

Iran was emboldened by Obama, the opposite is happening now.

Two questions for you-what is your country of origin? What is your political/economic ideology?

Forumites here can see your previous posts.

 

Morocco is 2500 miles away from Israel. When has Morocco ever gone to war with Israel? When was there no peace between Morocco and Israel? Learn some history. The crap you write and advertise is amazing

 

The point is muslim nations are agreeing to peace.

I don't consider Morocco an arab country, though it is muslim.

When was there war between Sudan and Israel? How about the UAE and Israel. It was always about Palestine. Sudan traded freely with Israel before the symbolic conflict and maybe now will again.

The point is they are all agreeing not to fight each other-peace is made in such ways.

History is changing, after over 50 years of blind "muslim v jew".

 

These events are nothing to do with "Muslim v Jew". It's all to do with threatening Iran, who have never attacked anyone, and China. All to support the global terrorists of Israel, the US and Saudi Arabia.

 

Iran is the victim and the US are terrorists. Thank you for your contribution.

 

That sort of question is out of order. It matters not a jot. As I have been beaten over the head about by the Mods here, deal with the content, not the Poster.

 

Why?

 

Take it up with the Mods, not me. The basic Rule here is NOT to address the Poster. Maybe I have that wrong. Happy for you to let me know.

 

Links please.

 

Okay.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?help/terms

 

I believe talking about what US was in WW2 aftermath era have little (or nothing) to do with our discussion. But overall I still don't believe that US could have done it even they were stronger than USSR or Britain militarily. They couldn't afford a WW3 right after defeating Hitler. And after the war exploitation went to another level from direct to indirect colonization.

I didn't deny your statement about ISIS. I simply said that US wasn't the main figure in defeating ISIS ( if we can ever predicate it as defeat) so we shouldn't allocate all the credit to US or Trump for that matter.

About my ID . It's not such a secret everybody can know things about us "forumites" by reading our posts.
My country of origin is Iran and as for my ideology I don't think that it's a valid question to ask. My ideology is my words and you can derive what I believe and what I don't by reading my posts. But thanks for asking

 

The hate for Trump is so bad that no leftist is going to give him any sort of credit for anything. They will piss and moan and talk negative about anything and everything that has even the hint of a whiff of smell of Trump. They are blinded by their hate and have no room for rational thought. They will do anything, even sell their souls to the devil in order to try and take Trump down.

They are pathetic. I pity them.

 

Could we be on the verge of ME peace:

 

And Morocco too!

Its like arab nations are making peace with Israel with the intention of checking Iran.