People need to learn not to be buthurt over every little thing. If you dont like the flag, fine dont like it.
The core to their ideology was more state power and keeping the federal government small. It's just that rich slave owners with the most power used it to protect their investments.
If the Confederacy has nothing to do with the Confederate flag today, then the people flying it are engaging in historical revisionism. Get it? I've already explained the difference here. Which you have yet to address. The Confederacy was SPECIFICALLY FOUNDED to preserve slavery. They SPECIFICALLY LEFT to preserve slavery. Slavery was the corner stone of their nation. These statements are not true for the US. Do you understand now? Feel free to explain where you are getting lost. I'm getting tired of trying to piece it together. The Confederacy was founded to preserve slavery. They rebelled against our country in the name of slavery. Let me know when that sinks in.
This is also false. The core ideology was slavery. When slavery and limited government competed, what did they choose? They chose slavery, not allowing their own states to choose whether to be free or slave -- mandating that all of their states be slave states. When they seceded, they named slavery, not "more state power" as their reason. The only "states right" they were willing to secede over was slavery.
99 percent of the soldiers that fought for the south never owned a slave and could not ever afford one.
Ah, this old myth. 99% is an enormous, historically inaccurate exaggeration, and even to the extent that it is true, it is only true due to the large number of CONSCRIPTS. The people who actually volunteered to serve were disproportionately members of slave owning families.
If the historical Eight Flags were still flying over Biloxi a ninth pole would soon have to be added to keep the historical grouping intact, that is: France, England, Spain, West Florida Republic, Magnolia State, Confederate, Mississippi State, United States, and the new flag (not yet chosen by a commission) soon to be voted on in November. At any rate the Mississippi state flag seen in seventh position has been retired by the legislature and is not coming back. But some people were unhappy about de jure history even in such a complete context. If the native American Biloxi tribe had had a flag it would have been in first position.
So why use a flag that never actually represented the Confederate nation? Why not use an actual Confederate flag? Why use the one later that never was the real Confederate flag and was later popularized by the KKK and segregationists?
That doesn't actually address what I actually said. But of course people served when called. If you refused the Confederacy's call to raise arms against the United States in the name of white supremacy, you were hanged.
Good point. The flag that was commonly seen until recent years was actually the second Confederate Naval Jack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Naval_jack_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_(1863–1865).svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America
It is said that the Jack flew over Biloxi harbor in defiance of the Union buildup of 18,000 troops at Fort Massachusetts on Ship Island, not far offshore. But those troops were used to take control of New Orleans, Biloxi was not of military interest. Whether or not it can be proved the Naval Jack flew over Biloxi harbor idk. The old fort's main brick ramparts are still standing in fair condition and are a tourist attraction now, overseen by the National Park Service.
In the North, iirc, you could buy your way out of answering the draft by paying a substitute $300 to go in your place. The South was more fair and equal opportunity about it.
Total BS. The Confederate Flag is part of our history. It is a symbol of a south that honors our parents and grand parents. We respect the past, and revere the Christian Beliefs. In other words, we respect our seniors, we believe in God, Country and our God. It has nothing to do with slavery, hate or white supremacy. If you spent some time in the south, you would know that. I have lived all over this country. I have seen far more racism is the north and out west then I have seen in the south. Believe it or not, California is the racist area that I have ever lived in. Of course I recognize the racism of the African-Americans and Hispanics which you liberals ignore.
Slavery was the political pretext. I liken it to the illegal ratification of the 14th Amendment. Virtually EVERYBODY believes the 14th Amendment had something to do with blacks and voting. In reality, that was the political pretext. The real impact of the 14th Amendment was to nullify unalienable Rights and destroy the Bill of Rights. I would ask why you're blowing smoke up people's arse, but even if faced with the facts, you would still be arguing this stuff. Common sense, math and a quick study of demographics over the years will prove that you are blowing smoke.
That's an interesting historical note that I've never heard before. Where did you read that the people who actually volunteered to serve were disproportionately members of slave owning families?
Even if all that undocumented crap were true, suppose that your cousin owned slaves. Why would you risk life and limb to protect his slave owning interests? The left has some strange math and family dynamics going on to arrive at their figures.
You've got quite an imagination. Josef Göbbles' contributions could have used an assistant. It's the right style for sure. Sort of a pitbull chomp .... and hold on, no matter what, twisting/ignoring all of the issues to fit the chomp: Pitbull: "The Swastika is all about the Holocaust!" Inquisitive: "But what did it have to do with Poland?" Pitbull: "Because of the Jews!" Inquisitive: "And why Sudentenland?" Pitbull: "Because of the Jews!" Inquisitive: "And why euphemism of the handicapped? Pitbull: "Because of the Jews!" Inquisitive: "And the Treaty of Versailles?" Pitbull: "Because of the Jews!" Inquisitive: "And the economic depression?" Pitbull: "Because of the Jews!" Inquisitive: "There must have been more to the Nazi movement than that." Pitbull: "I keep telling you, it's all about the Jews & Holocaust! Stop trying to conduct historical revisionism!"
No. But I read each stating, slavery. Every single one of them. Traitors. Every single one of them. Prove other wise.
Silliness in its simplest form with an absurd cherry on top. Actually, I already have ...... time and time again, but I honestly do not think you're listening very well or giving it half a second to sink in. That's what it takes, you know. You have to take a bit of information, judge it on its own merits, balance it against your own thoughts and see what floats. The thread is about the flag. The flag. You know? The flag.
