Although Republicans say they want another round of Direct payments..... do they really???

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  1. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see trumps gang doing this right before the election
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    So another way to say yes lol
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Only half were open when the stimulus happened.... the big businesses
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    And that explains with they didnt amend that in the senate how?
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    And they owe us citizens for their bull spit
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Will the fake money run out? It never seems to for major corporations or for tanks..
     
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    The first stimulus is still happening.
     
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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    It is simply stating what the Majority Leader does or does not do.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Well, I can see either criminal gang doing it.

    I ain't a gonna turn down no free money, but I still wouldn't vote for Trump (or Biden).
     
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    The GOP is in a sticky situation and it's because of decades of irresponsibility. They helped create this mess and at the same time they kind of sort of try and be fiscally responsible. Government is awesome.
     
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    ^^^Co-thread win.
     
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    The exact thing could be said about the Democrats. The Congress pushed through a so-called stimulus bill that they knew would not clear the Senate, or be signed by the President. The bill included a bailout for Democrat cities. Not just for the lost of revenue lost during the pandemic, but also for their own mismanagement. Such as the pension funds for Chicago and New York, and the budget defects that were caused by city socialist programs that they knew they could not afford. Citizens are leaving these two cities in droves, because they can not afford the taxes. Yet, instead of reining socialist programs, they are raising and instituting new taxes. The state of California is talking about adding a wealth tax on top of all the other taxes. I know several trucking companies that will not accept loads, or add a surcharge for loads going, to California, because of the fuel taxes they have. If cities want to make up their defects, then they should cut their spending. Not get bailed by the federal government as part of a pandemic stimulus program.

    The President has already addressed a couple of the issues. That is giving extra money to those that are unemployed, and dealing with the evictions and foreclosure problems. What has the DNC done except forward a bill that can not pass. I would expect the President to offer the sign the post office bill in exchange for direct payments to US citizens.
     
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    What the president did was toothless......

    Also while all your wrote may be true one side went down on their offer while the other didn't move at all........
     
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    Well definitely not because of 1 stimulus bill no
     
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    Really I thought the 1200 dollars was a one time thing in spring..... I should probably call someone to get my recurring payments
     
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    Democrats want to run up the debt more,and Republicans want to be mindful of that debt.. Indeed it is simple.
     
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    So you think that a 3 trillion dollar bill is a realistic propsal? Bless your heart. You are easily fooled.
     
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    The world is does not begin and end with you. The payment were sent out based on one's income unless they got direct deposits. Poorest people were Week 1. Next poorest people Week 2. As I already said, some people were not scheduled to get theirs until as late as September. Mine came a week early which was end of june when it wasn't supposed to come until first friday in July I believe it was.
     
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    Exactly!

    Reading a report on quarterly results that credited the $600 provided to the unemployed as making a difference when it came to sales volumes not tanking because people who are unemployed reduce their spending.

    Another round of checks will stimulate the economy for all sectors, big and small, IMO. Timing is everything and the lack of money NOW will hurt the economy leading up to the election.

    Furthermore the GOP Senate is already facing a tough election so it makes no sense to be the "bad guys" and not do anything at all to bail out hardworking Americans when they given TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to large corporations over the past 2 decades.

    Politically it makes no sense and economically it makes no sense to without further payments.
     
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    No payments to anyone that can't provide an MDs diagnosis of 'at risk.' For those at risk still working- full payment of their usual living expenses so they can isolate.

    For everyone else, open the damn economy back up.
     
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  21. TurnerAshby

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    Completely agree you said how I feel as well probably more eloquently than I could probably put it and what's funny is I can see all that and I'm a more conservative leaning person and you and I've been in arguments before but now there is literally one way to look at this issue there's no gray area....
     
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    No liability protections for businesses without hazard pay to employees then
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    You literally just dodged all I wrote.......

    Nice
     
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    That's a pretty fair take and seems like a pretty honest call it like you see it instead of a purely partisan response.... I appreciate it because it seems harder and harder to get that on here anymore
     
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    That would create some very interesting legal precedent with severe long term effects on employment, since:

    "Hazard pay compensates an employee for duty that could result in serious injury or death. Generally, this payment is in addition to regular hourly wages or salary. There is no law requiring employers to pay hazard pay: both the amount of the pay and the conditions under which it is paid are determined by the employer."

    How much hazard pay do you think Cvirus warrants?

    https://www.thebalancecareers.com/w...hat,it is paid are determined by the employer.
     

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