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Donald Trump contradicts CDC director on coronavirus vaccine timeline rollout

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Trump admin is trying to convince the public they have had a hands off approach to the vaccine and it's testing and approval, then Trump does this

    people are fearful Trump is trying to rush the testing and the vaccine will not be safe - this is not helping
     
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    The Trump vaccine is coming.

    Saving lives.
     
    Moolk, Sep 17, 2020
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  3. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Cool story don't take it whatever you do. Just like you say about the mask you have that option to flirt with death from the Wuhan Virus.
     
    hawgsalot, Sep 17, 2020
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  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will give it a couple months before I take it, feel free to trust Trump if you want too... 'what do you have to lose'

    I am sure Trump would not play down the dangers....
     
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  5. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    LOL so now Trump controls pfizer and Moderna.... You do realize they've both invested over a billion each into their vaccines? You do realize it would destroy both companies to come out with a dangerous or ineffective vaccine right? You do realize they have the best scientist in the world and military working on this right? Have you heard of any adverse effects or side effects from their vaccine trials that have been going on for months with 100% effective rates? Hey I'm all for you skipping out but I guarantee you the first ones in line will be wacko Nancy, dementia joe and whining Chuck. They'll then come out and say the same thing you said "we don't trust Trump". Ignorance is a beautiful way to cull the herd no doubt.
     
    hawgsalot, Sep 17, 2020
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    Trump is a Complete MORON (who has no idea what he is talking about).

    At this point, only 1/3 of America (those who comprise Trump's "Hard-Core Base") even cares what Trump has to say (on any subject).

    Trump (as always) is a complete (non-serious) Clown Act:

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  7. FreshAir

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    the Trump admin can interfere with the approval process, and sadly, yes I think Trump would do that if he thought it would benefit him personally - but you're free to believe Trump would never play down the dangers

    I will wait two months, but we need guinea pigs, so I thank those that go before me
     
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    Who outperformed Obama at every turn, embarrassing him.
     
    Moolk, Sep 17, 2020
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  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama handled his pandemics much better than Trump handled his

    Trump raised the debt more in 4 years than Obama did in 8 years
     
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  10. hawgsalot

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    Oh the baseless accusations once again, shocking I tell you. Pretty soon it'll be a Russian vaccine designed to kill all American's, if it comes out before the election.
     
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  11. FreshAir

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    I would hope Trump would not approve such a vaccine, but you never know
     
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    Incorrect, Obama waited until 17k dead to do anything, had he done that during the chinavirus we might actually have 2 million dead by now like the original estimates. Trump saved those lives by taking action immediately.

    He also out performed OBamas economy by spending less in his first 3 years than obama did during his.

    He outperformed obama at every turn.

    This remains true regardless of how you choose to "feel" about it.
     
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    Ahh you just can't ever get past your petty partisanship, I'll say it's quiet comical watching you dip and dodge around with speculative rubbish though. I hope you don't think anyone takes you serious though.
     
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    Both Trump and the CDC have been wrong. By the time we find out if he is right, there will be 1000 other reasons to have tanTrumps!
     
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    you're the one that brought it up, not me
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we do not even know how many will die under Trump handling of the virus yet
     
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    I will, but I am not gullible enough to buy in to the BS that Trump "rushed it through" or even has that power. The left act like he's got his kids down a Mara-a-Lago cooking up vaccines.
     
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    They aren't, if it's safe and effective, and you are changing the subject.
     
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    That must have been when the right wing talk radio shouters and the trashy blogs were all yelling that ISIS had secret bases in Mexico, training terrorists to spread Ebola in the US.

    Or, maybe not.

    Your second point is blatantly dishonest. But Obama didn’t have his Treasury secretary push through a tax cut that blew a trillion buck hole in the national debt BEFORE Covid.
     
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  20. Bush Lawyer

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    What on Earth makes you think that the USA is moving more rapidly than the rest of the Planet in working on a vaccine?
     
    Bush Lawyer, Sep 17, 2020
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    No expert or anybody else has any scientifically proven information on the availability of an effective vaccine. That's "no" as in none, zero, nada. Nobody has any inherent (first hand) information about the logistics of distribution outside of the administration (including the military) other than what they have been told.

    The CDC is not responsible for approving the vaccine and is on the recipient end of the distribution planning and FDA approval. (They are responsible for medical reports after the vaccine has been in use.) Their prognosis is based on second-hand information, so their accuracy is in question. Trump, with no evidence of lying outside the wishful made up claims of the Trump haters, has actually not definitively asserted anything about the availability of the vaccine. He makes best estimates based on the direct input from front line developers and testers. So, if forced to choose between believing the head of the CDC or the president in this case, I have to go hands down easy as pie with the president[/QUOTE]

    I estimate that it is possible Martians will land on Earth tomorrow. Okay.
     
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    And I say that Martians might land on Earth tomorrow. Okay?
     
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    Let me help. It took me about 30 seconds.


    "Pfizer will be able to deliver 100 million doses of the Covid vaccine this year, if approved, and another 1.3 billion in 2021. Governments have already ordered 450 million doses, with options for 600 million more."
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/pf...irst-in-a-new-wave-of-preventives-51600257601
     
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    Only the Facts please ...............

    60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1

    So Trump finally upped President Obama on something.

    188,000 more Deaths and averaging 800 - 1100 additional deaths a day

    Due to Trumps Virus ( Failing to do anything to stop the Trump Virus ) Trumps main focus is to dismiss and Lie about the Facts
     
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    How many products deemed "Safe and Effective" by the FDA have class action lawsuits due to the harm they caused?
     
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