Trump setting up this country for chaos

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    certification process takes place before January 21, IF there are no objections.

    if Trump screws with the mail and absentee ballots, there will be objections and House will not certify. if they can't come to a resolution by Jan 21, Trump and Pence lose control.
     
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    Sorry....doesn't take that long:
    Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 sets the method for objections to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, Members of Congress may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately in a session which cannot last more than two hours with each Member speaking for no more than five minutes. After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted.
    • Objections to the Electoral College votes were recorded in 1969 and 2005. In both cases, the House and Senate rejected the objections and the votes in question were counted.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    House is run by Democrats.

    if the rejected electoral votes mean nobody gets 270, we have a problem.

    Pence and Trump lose power, and Pelosi or Patrick Leahy becomes POTUS
     
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    and the Senate is run by the GOP

    they only have a couple hours to debate, and each objection has to be signed by both a Senator and member of the House.

    As highlighted eariler the certification process will take place prior to the new Congress....if it results in a tie in EC Votes....then there is a vote in the House...where each state will vote

    There is no way we don't have a winner so that your fantasy comes true....but whatever little bit of hope you can hang on to I guess.....whatever the propgandaist keep throwing you.....aren't you sick of being let down?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there is a tie the House votes for president and Biden will become president. :)

    But don't worry you can still keep Little Mikey as vice president
     
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    In keeping with the evidence. Even if they are Trump appointees they aren't Judge Wapner. Kavanaugh has already done one ruling against Trump's interests.
     
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    Because, like the Romans long ago, they've done nothing but aggravate the barbarians and deny their righteous grievances
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you fail to grasp is that sense of Democrats control the house, they don't have to certify any election where Trump has caused widespread chaos.

    They know that if no resolution takes place before January 21 a Democrat becomes president. So they really have no motivation to give in to the Republicans. They have the upper hand in this situation.
     
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    I agree with that. We have needed a barbarian to clean up the gate keepers for a long time.
     
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    The Democrats have had this country in chaos for almost 4 years. They have been nonstop trying to oust Trump, and he has survived. We all know that the Democrats have a history of chicanery and cheating. That’s what they’re about. Don’t try to blame the Republicans when the a Democrats are the ones who say that they will contest the election if they lose. Democrats are masters of projection, but it doesn’t work. Republicans are NOT the bad guys!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Trump starts seizing and invalidating mail balots all hell will break loose.

    If he is smart he will let the absentee ballots and the mail ballots be counted in full.
     
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    So in other words a Democrat "Coup" from the violence that leftist racial groups are plaguing cities with and MEDIA blitzing about some overweight criminal, dope addict with a bad heart that dies from lite resistance/exertion.. Yup they "DNC" have clearly activating their century old army of welfare dependents to spin their little Coup..

    The only problem is they have opened Pandora's box and they have no way of controlling it if they win ;)
     
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    I have zero inclination to try to prove it to you, mostly because that would be a fool's errand. Like I have no inclination to try to prove to you that the sun rises in the east.
     
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    28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections
    Exclusive: California State Election Official Confirms Double-Voting by Mail in Super Tuesday Primary
    Bullshit goes on and on about mail in voting :)
     
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    FYI- Joe Biden and the House of Representatives will not certify the election until it is clear that all absentee and mail ballots have been counted. If we have to wait till March so be it.
     
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    You've been watching too much Faux.
     
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    That view of reality is really weird and totally bass ackwards.
     
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    The House alone doesn't make that choice...that's what you fail to see....

    The law requires it to be certified or not before the 21st, well before as I explained. At the Joint Session, the do it, if there is an objection, they each go to their own chambers and have 2 hours to debate it....

    It either is objected to or rejected, then they count....and certifiy, if it's a tie then it goes to the tiebreaker process...this all happens before the new Congress is sworn. There is no way it goes to the 21st without a certification
     
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    For the hundredth time on this forum, I don't even subscribe to fox news ;) Your lack if attention to details are renown on PF ;)
     
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    It's not each member vote that counts....the members vote for the state as a whole...so maybe not.
     
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    What righteous grievances might that be??? That the Romans were in charge and the barbarians hated it???
     
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    I get a kick out of our house Dems and their "THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US" shtick.. They believe we Republicans are embarrassing just think what the world thinks of them ATM and the shitshow production they are performing LMFAO :)
     
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    A more accurate description would be the rest of the world is appalled at the colossal error in judgement made by the minority in electing an incompetent conman.
     
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    Ya, I'm pretty sure that's not as entertaining and damning as the riots and the Dems election antics ;)
     
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