Trump setting up this country for chaos

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump said we may not know who is president until the spring
     
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    That's if they are still counting on the state level....but hopefully that doesn't happen. Sounds like since some attention has been brought to the left's attempts to disregard absentee ballots folks are going to be more aware and ensure that doesn't happen
     
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    Incorrect. A president is elected if he or she receives a majority of the electoral votes cast, not of the total electoral votes, though they are almost certainly the same. Almost because it seems possible with with the falderal this election it is conceivable that a state or two might not submit their electoral votes on time and therefore not get cast and counted. If there is a tie each House state delegation votes on the top five names from the electoral votes. Unless that list includes the names of Pelosi or Leahy, there is zero chance of either being elected president.
     
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    You should be using past tense as we have been in chaos for the majority of Dirty Donalds years of tyranny.
     
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    Incorrect again. The House (nor the Senate) certify the vote of the electoral college per se. The vote is what it is as sent it my the states. However they can make a challenge if they think the votes were improperly cast, and that means improper according to the prescribed process, not improper because they don't like it.

    The count and resolution takes place on January 6. Only if there is a tie for the president might the resolution go to January 21 or even later. If the House is still voting on the president on January 21 the elected vice president assumes the duties, not any congressional Democrat.
     
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    Is that the situation you think is in effect now?
     
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    I don't understand. Do you really think the House will vote for Trump?
     
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    Thats not what he said. The Dems handed Trump a nice gift this election.
     
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    Suicides both civilian and military setting records year after year since 2017 and Dirty Donalds reign of terror.
     
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    Actually the number of suicides in the US growing every year without regard to presidents:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db362.htm
     
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    its literally what he said.

    "the only way democrats can win, is if they cheat."
     
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    Congress can fail to certify the results past Jan 21, which means Trump & Pence become regular citizens.

    Trump himself said with mail voting, we may not know who won for months.
     
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    So you are correcting your false quote?

    "the ONLY way we can win, is if the Democrats cheat"

    As far as what he actually said, Dems are making him right by changing the rules.
     
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    Trump declared Friday that the only way he’ll lose the election is if the Democrats cheat.

    “We’re not going to lose this except if they cheat,” Trump told the crowd. “Our country is at stake.”




    If Trump can say the only way he loses is if the other side cheats, why can't the Democrats do the same?
     
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    Yes, precisely.
     
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    Don't worry. Biden won't win.
     
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    I intended to say the House (nor the Senate) [does not] certify the vote of the electoral college per se.

    If the voting is tied for president in the electoral college, the house will vote on the winner from a list of the top 5 vote getters. Each state gets one vote and the Republicans hold a majority of states (by about 2 IIRC), so, unless this changes with November's elections, you can bet that the house will vote for and elect Trump.
     
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    I intended to say the House (nor the Senate) [does not] certify the vote of the electoral college per se. If there is a tie in the electoral college then the House votes on the top five in the EC's list, with each state's delegation getting one vote. If they still haven't decided by Jan 21 (it took 37 votes in Jefferson versus Burr) then the voting continues and the winning VP assumes the presidency in the meantime. Pence is not term limited nor would he be otherwise ineligible. Neither the house nor the senate has anything to say about the matter.
     
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    if NOBODY reaches 270 votes, there is no tie and the House and Senate have to sort things out.

    Pence's reign of terror ends on January 21 unless Congress certifies his election win, which will not happen if Trump tries to steal the election and cheat by ****ing with the mail and absentee ballots.
     
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    This is becoming tedious. First, congress does not certify the election. It only counts and verifies the votes. Second, the winner needs a majority of the electoral votes cast, not of the total number of electoral delegates. Third, if their is a tie for president the House, not the Senate, votes on a state by state (with each state having one vote) basis for the president elect from a list of the top 5 electoral college vote getters. Then, if the House has not completed their voting by Jan 21, Pence assumes the presidency until such time they do finish. Beyond this process neither the House nor the Senate have any control or say in the matter.
     
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    wrong.

    NOBODY can become President without 270 votes.

    if the Democrat-run House cannot certify that someone received 270 legitimate electoral votes, then Houston...we have a problem.

    Trump ceases to be POTUS, position goes to Pelosi or Leahy.

    then Congress tries to find some sort of solution.

    perhaps a new election.
     
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    It certifies the electoral votes... which is the election

    Wrong again
     

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