Marcus Smart's painful postgame incident a lasting reminder that racism is taught

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  1. Moolk

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    No one ever said any of those things you mentioned. Its a false comparison.

    That line of thinking wasn't his, nor was it relatable to his. You simply are projecting, you should stop.

    Is this a knee jerk reaction to the reality that identity politics is dying, even on the left? It wasn't going to last forever, it was based on false notions. Even BLM supporters are waking up to that terrorist organizations nonsense.
     
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    Yep, there are racist people in America. That doesn’t support the notion of systematic racism.
     
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    You already gave your opinion. Why do you feel the need to keep giving it?

    It's so non existent, it keeps coming up in presidential debates.
    For something that doesn't exist, it gets a lot of attention.



    In the first debate of an election marked by a tumultuous summer of protests over racism and police brutality, the presidential candidates debated whether “systemic racism” existed in America.

    The two presidential candidates addressed the issues in wildly different ways.
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryancbrooks/trump-biden-presidential-debate-race
     
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    The left refusing to shut up about it isn't evidence that systemic racism is a big issue in this country. If it were, you'd be able to show tons of evidence of it. Yet all you have is the inability to stop talking about it, that's not evidence, it's obsession. It's being used in an attempt to win an election, nothing more.

    Spending time talking about something doesn't mean it exists (see russia investigation).

    You say the summer protests were over racism and police brutality. What racist act are you referring to?
     
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    I have noticed the irony too. Using similar methods.

    Racism is still around but its very small and limited.

    Oddly you find it more in Boston than in Jackson.ms. or Birmingham Alabama.

    Racism is minimal , a miracle. to me a Mississippian .

    I don't know any racists here in ithe.deep south. They all died off.

    Yet the left never celebrate it. Instead the left dig for it as if looking for gold..

    Then if they find a.case.of.it, suddenly it's pervasive! They celebrate that!

    Most Americans go overboard
    e in not being racist. And still get accused of it.
     
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    Racism still exists. I was at the mall the other day and a black woman accosted me and called me a snow chimp. As the tears ran down my cheeks from the hurt and the harm, she laughed at me and walked away. I am so ravaged that I simply can't function in the world any more. I need the government to write me a check to ease my oppression and shame.

    This is the clown world we live in, we must learn to adapt. Embrace your victimhood.
     
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    It's not the left.
    It's the black population. The OP is about 1 such instance.
    Virtually every black person has been impacted by societies inherent racism. AKA, systemic racism.
    Virtually every black person must give their kids, 'the talk'. As was linked and posted about in this thread.

    It's a topic at presidential debates.

    I haven't said anything about protests.
    What act? Did you even read the OP or the story linked?
     
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    If this story is true it is difficult to believe this guy got his feeling hurt from being called a name. Maybe it is time to toughen up a little?
     
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    Saying it doesn't make it true. You've yet to back this up. In fact, you haven't even tried.

    'the talk'....obey cops....yea, i got that one as well, all kids should regardless of race.

    Your words in the post I quoted:

    "In the first debate of an election marked by a tumultuous summer of protests over racism and police brutality"

    So....again....what racist act? George Floyd?...you gonna claim that was racism?
     
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    It’s simply the truth of the matter, and I always fee the need to put it out exactly as much as I want.

    It’ts prevalence in discussion has no relevance to whether or not it exists. The fact of the matter is, there is political gain to be had by pretending its existence is there. The objective reality is however, it doesn’t exist. Racism is an insignificant issue in the U.S. due to it being such a rarity, and certainly is not systemic. However, what racism does exist is directed towards whites people, not coming from them.

    Thus far, the arguments provided on behalf of systemic racisms existence have been without credibility nor substance.
     
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    Objectively incorrect. Racisms impact is virtually nonexistent for a races in 2020, despite people’s inaccurate and unprovabe claims otherwise. Polling is not an accurate way to gauge whether or not someone has been impacted by racism and thats where most of the “evidence” is haha.

    Virtually everyone of every race gives their children “the TAlk”. That does not serve as the argument you think it does.

    Systemic racism simply doesn’t exist, its a boogeyman created for political gain.
     
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    That is a perfect example actually. The Russia Russia conspiracy theory with no basis in fact, nor evidence to support it was spoken about relentlessly for almost 3 years and yet it wasn’t true. Speaking about it as if it were true for a those years did not change that fact that it wasnt.

    The argument attempting to use frequency of discussion as a metric to determine how much validity a concept has was devoid of rationale.

    The good news is though, I genuinely believe people are getting away from this nonsense bit by bit. Once dems no longer have the AA vote in the 90 percent and above I think this style of identify politics goes away with it. And while that probably wont occur this election, its coming sooner rather than later.
     
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    The 'where there's smoke there's fire' argument doesn't work for them since they're creating the smoke.

    I hope this is the way it works out. Identity politics failing would definitely be a positive. It would be interesting to see how things would shift if the democrats actually had to do things that benefited minorities instead of just saying they do things that benefit them.

    I also think it's going to be interesting to see how the non black minorities vote this election. I know there's a portion who feel ignored given all the attention blacks/BLM have gotten.
     
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    It's irrelevant whether someone's feelings are hurt or not
     
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    Of course it makes it true.
    The people, blacks, saying it, are living it. It is very true to them. Sticking one's head in the sand doesn't mean they don't experience it.

    Obey the cops? It's more than obey the cops. It's don't make any move.
     
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    I suspect in the case of the position you're coming from.
    There's a political gain by sticking one's head in the sand and ignoring the voices of those claiming systemic racism. Those living it daily.
    Those like the person in the OP story.
     
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    The story of the OP prove it's NOT virtually non-existent.
     
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    Still nothing to back it up.

    And no, it's not more than 'obey the cops'. It's a blatant lie you're still pushing. Blacks aren't being murdered left and right by cops....9 in 2019. Stop pushing a proven lie.

    Again, you pushing this lie doesn't make it real....move on to something that exists.
     
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    Objectively incorrect. The story in the op is an anecdote. Not reflective of the greater population. It is virtually nonexistent, even with your anecdote.
     
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    They aren’t living it daily. They couldn’t even begin to prove their claims, and in the context of calling everyone racist for literally no reason being the status quo, it becomes obvious that systemic racism is simply a boogeyman created for political gain.
     
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    Incorrect, them saying it doesn’t at all make it true. If that’s the logic you use, then in order to maintain logical consistency you would have to believe anyone who claims they are being oppressed by anyone else for any reason. Including white people. For obvious reasons that is absurd. Then again, the left thinks believing all women, over facts and evidence, is appropriate lmao.

    And everyone is to obey the cops, everyone gets that talk. It isn’t unique to black people. White people are killed more often despite committing less violence.

    The arguments yiu have presented thus far are wholly lacking. Essentially saying “just believe”. The reality is that systemic racism doesn’t exist, it is a concept that was created for political gain. And what little racism does exist is directed at white people, not coming from them.
     
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    Nice dodge. You know the profile for black people is not flattering, even Jesse Jackson said he was relieved when the footsteps behind him weren't coming from black people. Is he a racist? Geez, that's was probably the dumbest statement I'll ever make.
     
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    why do you use words like hate? Do you know what hate really means? Using a word is not hate. According to the left, the N word is perfectly OK when used by the right people. Is it hate when you guys call us racists, Nazis and bigots based on our political beliefs? In fact, you guys call everyone who disagrees with you a bigot not realizing how bigoted you are when you maintain that belief.

    When people get pissed off they use words that will piss off the other person. Did you see my thread where the intolerant Biden supporter was calling Asians, specifically people from the Orient part of Asia, in other words, Orientals, did you see him call them *****s? I don't recall seeing you in there spouting off the hate word.

    And if the N word is a term of endearment, then why did the NFL make it a 15 yard penalty when someone uses it? As is typical, the left lives by two sets of rules, hypocrisy and double standards. The good news is that as much as you guys try, you can't make me behave the way you want me to, you can't force your beliefs and standards, as low as they are, on me.

    if mere words can drive the left into chaos, hissy fits and meltdowns, then how the heck do you guys manage to get through life without therapy? Didn't you ever here the phrase about sticks and stones?

    At some point in time, I really wish the left would explain what they've done to blacks that makes them feel such guilt. I'm guilt free and will never apologize for it.
     
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    That is a pretty racist thing to say, but I'm sure you don't see it that way. Have you ever considered the racist notion held by the left that some people will never be able to make it on their own without help and that notion is based on the color of a person's skin? Do you guys not see your own racism? Disguising your racism or trying to atone for it does not make the racist beliefs of the left magically disappear.
     
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    Anyway, this is a fake story, total bs. No one cares, I know I don't.
     

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