'Staggering numbers': Early voting is breaking records in 2020

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if that was truly the case the Founders would not have included the Militia at all in the 2nd amendment,
     
  2. Hollyhood

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    Yes. You don't have to serve in a militia. You have the right to lawfully own and use a weapon regardless of whether you join or intend to join a militia, and the government cannot confiscate your weapon unless your use falls outside legal and traditional bounds. However, I'm just putting some context behind the phrase about "a well regulated militia", because it is important to put context behind those words. The ability to form a well regulated militia is an important rationale for why the individual right to bear arms cannot be infringed by the government.
     
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    That is a STRAWMAN that has NOTHING to do with what I actually posted.
     
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    Please provide FACTUAL EVIDENCE for your ballot conspiracy.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Per past elections ballot rejections total about 1% which means that if 150 million people vote then 1.5 million could be rejected.
     
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    Who forms a militia? Your average person. In order to have a 'well regulated militia', all most be armed and ready to defend.

    To believe that the 2A is 'obsolete' means you support the idea that people have no right to defend themselves and their families. That they must depend on others to do so. Why should people allow that to happen? Their right to self defense is intrinsic to the Right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Without a means to defend themselves, anyone bigger and nastier can do whatever they want.
     
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    Hissy fit? Your histrionics are astounding. I don't think you are capable of an honest discussion, I was wrong about that. You have too much anger and angst built up.

    You have yourself a nice day.
     
  8. (original)late

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    We replaced militias with standing militaries. Starting with George Washington...

    Your inability to reason is duly noted. What it means is we need a national discussion to decide the best way to deal with guns in the modern world. That can happen with or without the 2A.

    One proposal that would be politically easy to pass would be to simply return gun laws to the way they were in 1962. It's not enough, but it would be a start.
     
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    Standing military... are they out on the country roads? Are they at everyone's beck and call? No. They are intended to guard our borders, and fend off attacks (I do not support our military being in foreign nations with out an invite).

    Guns aren't the problem. They do not act on their own, they are a tool. The UK did so well in regulating guns, they needed to turn around and regulate the next dangerous item, knives. What's next?
     
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    Hopefully, sanity.
     
  11. James Knapp

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    Kentucky is becoming more Republican by that graph's metric.
     
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    Yet AGAIN I am kindly asking you to REFRAIN from PROJECTING your OWN issues onto others.
     
  13. Doofenshmirtz

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    Okay, so you support armed guards protecting money that can be replaced. What if a 100 pound female wants to transport her children? Woman and children are targeted. Should she be able to carry a firearm?
     
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    And bush won Florida by 400 votes....
     
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    Final counts AFTER the concession proved that Bush jr LOST Florida.
     
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    Hmm.
    If the 2nd Amendment is all about the militia, what sound argument is there the 2nd amendment does not protect the right to own and use an AR15?
     
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    So... why, in 1791, almost 20 years after the formation of the standing army, did the people who wrote and ratified the bill of rights state that the militia is necessary?
    The Democrats would never allow this.
     
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    Selective response.

    What other tools can or would be regulated?
     
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    67.4 M through 2:10 today.. 48.9% of 2016... this is very exciting.. and I'm happy election day should be much less of a hassle in most places, except for all you unlucky Georgians... which is run by Neanderthals...

    For those that haven't seen this site, it's collecting each state for summarization...

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html
     
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    With functional public transit, good jobs and stuff to do? I wish.
     
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    Another 16 million early votes cast since Tuesday.... 83.5 million total, which cracks 60% of 2016 totals.

    Texas has now exceeded 100% of 2016 votes

    Truly amazing America....

    I find it interesting that just a few states over, Mississippi is rolling at 11.8% of 2016 and Alabama at 10.4%

    I cannot see how any of this is good news for Donald J. Trump, but feel free to attempt to convince us otherwise...
     
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    At this point its anyone' guess, but

    I live in a Denver suburb where nothing ever going on, and for the last few weeks, our most important intersection is occupied by Trump's supporters, old and young, quite a crowds. Occasionally when they're not seen, a lonely Biden follower will show up, but not often.

    Dunno if it means anything, we'll see. :juggle:
     
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    This argument is silly. We can have freedom of speech without having a requirement to only use it when we petition the Government for a redress of grievances. We can have the right to bear arms without the requirement that we are in a militia while doing it.
     
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    There will be books written as to why Trump supporters seem to want to "crowd up" during a pandemic and Biden supporters don't, but I have my internal thoughts as to why that is...

    Colorado is a beautiful state... We vacationed there @ 6 years ago (Estes Park) and had a wonderful week hiking all over the Rocky Mountain Park. Most hiking we ever did in a 1 week timeframe...
     
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    Regardless of who wins these elections, since we are all most likely voting for more than the President, more Americans voting is a good thing. As long as they are citizens of this great nation with a right to vote.
     
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