Proud Boy charged in insurrection blasts Trump's 'deception' in new court filing

Proud Boy charged in insurrection blasts Trump's 'deception' in new court filing

I personally do not believe they deserve leniency because it will send the message that their behavior was "not that bad" and no harm was done. Seven people are dead (5 that day) including two police officers. That's hardly "nothing".

Do you think any of the rioters deserve leniency? Why or why not?

 

No. Prosecutors should go no further than they have to if offering a deal.

 

Sure..... Each case is different...

Those that caused physical harm to somebody = no leniency
Those that physically broke into the building or stole federal property/documents = no leniency
Those that wandered through the broken doors and took photos, then left peacefully (and there were plenty of those) = fines, no jail

Each case is different... we can't lump everybody into the same bucket...

 

Man just like trump!....lol......take no personal responsibility and blame someone else!

Its priceless, bunch of pussys

 

No, no, and after giving your question very careful consideration of a total of 1/10000000 of a nano second my decion is NO!... NFW,

 

No, they're idiot criminals and criminals never deserve anything less than prescribed punishment. Even though the number of protesters that day who breached the building represents less than 1/100th of 1% of the total turnout, and even though the number therein who actually went violent represents another 1/100th of 1% of that subgroup, they're still savage idiots so lock them up.

But whats even more dumb than the idea of giving leniency is this notion that the basis for doing so would be some sort of testimony against Pres Trump, or to a less degree just formal recognition of the excuse being presented here. Humans have free will, it started there and it ends there. If we open this Pandora's box of excusing criminals because we like the political ramifications then we'll never recover.

 

So the "P" in their name does not in any way stand for "Proud".

 

By making the Trumpocity take resoponsiblity and punishment for giving those you call criminals the excuse to commit the crimes that you agree they committed that would be the proper honest way to handle this culmination of what Trump caused to happen.

 

It doesn’t matter how this nutcase perceived anything. You cannot point to anywhere where Trump incited this or deceived anyone. Trump didnt cause the riot, that is democrat fake news. Which is hypocritical as dems have supported Blm terrorists rioting for years.

 

Lol.yes it does. That's the entire point of incitement.

He and many others believed they were helping and doing Trumps bidding. You think they came to that conclusion from nothing?

*inb4objectivelywrong*

 

Incorrect, a person can perceive anything they want from anything that is said by anyone. That doesn’t make it incitement. If I tell a person to protest, and they perceive riot. That doesn’t make it incitement. Perception means nothing and doesn’t at all prove anything.

So yes, from an objective standpoint you are wrong.

 

Its evidence to prove the original charge. If one person gets a weird idea, sure. If thousands hear you speak and ALL get the same idea, then you, the speaker, become the common denominator.

Which is objectively right.

Also, I said it first so your obviously copying me.

 

Incorrect, it snot evidence of anything other than this nut case perceived whatever he wanted to perceive. Using it as evidence of anything else is genuinely irrational. Whats actually happening is, they all chose to riot despite the president not inciting it and the democrats are blaming Trump irrationally.

From an objective standpoint however, there was nothing you couldpoint to that Trump said that incited violence.

How you fell for it though, is not surprising. Many did, anything to sate the hate of Trump that so many have.

Furthermore, your claim is also nonsense. You have no evidence that thousands of people perceived an incitement to violence. They haven’t all been interviewed nor claimed that. You made that up.

 

The rioters are not responsible for 7 people, you don't normally buy into things like that so I am a tad surprised.

The idiots who broke into the Capitol committed specific criminal offenses, without the hyperbole. They should be tried on those offenses, and if convicted, do the time specified by a just law for those offenses.

They are responsible for their actions, no one else.

 

Well said.

But hyperbole, laced with hate, sells.

And right now dems hate Trump, and any type of fallacious logic to attack him will suffice.

Cubed really made the argument that inherently by rioting, they must have been incited by Trumps speech.

 

Mirror that 1000 fold to the DNC as well and we'll be on the right course.

 

So basically the selfie losers who did no harm to anyone should get the least punishment, right? I agree with that sentiment, selfie losers who didn't do anything to harm others should be treated like a normal trespassing.

 

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to all this "a normal trespassing", but yes...

As has been reported, most of those "trespassers" are going to walk anyway, just on volume concerns.

But their names and faces are going to remain in databases for years to come.... sort of informal probation....

 

What are you talking about? Are you responding to another thread?

 

What if you tell someone to fight or their country will be stolen in a few moments.
Before you say legally: all legal options had passed
Before you say at the polls: no new vote was happening

What could fight mean in this context besides the actual definition: (with pictures)


March to the Capitol and fight, care to break the sentence down for us that don’t speak trumpanease?

 

When the Trumpocity was running for office in 2016 it's fans claimed that he says what he thinks.

I will take them for their word. The Trumpocity NRA t what he said fight as in war, insurrection, terrorism.

 

When Sherman conducted his march to the sea during the Civil War it was just a stroll in park simple normal trespassing.

The Japanese did not bomb nor torpedoed ships at Pearl Narbor that was just simple mischief littering.

 

I definitely believe some of these insurrectionists may need to get a psych evaluation before trial. They may not be "competent" to stand trial will be a likely popular defense.

 

This is probably true, but the same goes for many of the BML / ANTIFA types too. The nutters come in all forms.

 

Hell no. Throw the book at them. This was an insurrection!!! It was an attempted violent overthrow of the elected Government, And they knew exactly what they were doing. Nowhere does the Constitution or any law say that you attack the Capitol and seek to execute the VP and speaker of the house. The core of trump's base has always been a blood-thirsty mob. I knew that when in one of his first rallies he called for the mass murder of tens of thousands of innocent people - to kill the families of terrorists - and the crowd cheered.

I was horrified and have been ever since. These people are deplorable just like H said and they deserve to be locked up for a very very long time. I don't care if they were teachers or rescue workers or priests, they are just traitors and insurrectionists who failed. If they had won they surely would have executed the people they captured with a blood lust. They are animals and deserve to be treated like animals.One even strongly resembles a bison.

Cops who were there said some people were literally foaming at the mouth.