Well--------------- the kangaroo court is on.

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile people are still dying from Covid. Where is the outrage from the lefties?
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...we wished the orange dotard gone, and poof, he loses the election.
    We wished the trump cult to fail, and they discredited themselves by attempting sedition and insurrection.
    That’s pretty nice bread and butter, eh?
    Got any jam?
     
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    Im Australian. And I’m amazed at how many Americans don’t understand how their own system works.
     
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    When did I even mention ‘Native Americans’ in my post?
    Where do you get your history of America from, at a guess I’d say from Hollywood.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    When did the conservative brand become so weaselly? So accepting of really bad behavior? What went so terribly wrong in conservadom that the Trump, a most foul and dishonest creature, would be seen as one’s savior?
     
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    I have no idea where you are coming from.

    I mentioned the founders. That's it. You then claimed I thought they were Americans. Since America didn't exist when they started forming a government, they couldn't be immigrants, right? So, if you aren't an immigrant, you are, what? Wait for it.... native!

    Now, what does ANY of this have to do with what I wrote?
     
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    I’ve always found it odd, the conservative obsession with child molestation. Is it not at the heart of the latest addition to the conservative movement, Q?

    Apparently the reason that there are very few young conservatives is because liberal elites like to dine on the delicate meat of conservative children. Sip the unique flavor and texture of their unsoiled blood.
     
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    Bad behavior is generally reserved for the judicial branch of government to address. The legislature branch is limited in its powers to only prosecute a sitting president to remove him from office. Currently the only article of impeachment is inciting a mob towards insurrection. That charge can be prosecuted in the court of justice where it belongs since Trump is no longer the sitting president and therefore can’t be removed from office.

    When did political animosity in the minds of Democrats replace the Constitution? I believe it could be traced back to at least just before January 20th 2017.
     
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    I’m pretty sure that the continents of South and North America were so named by the early 1500’s. But anyone born here is a native, regardless of their ancestry.
     
  10. Curious Always

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    Yes. I know. Why do you think I don't know?

    I'm exiting the topic of the nationality of the FF. I never brought it up; I merely got accused of calling them Americans. I didn't do that.
     
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    Correct, impeachment is not law created via legislation but it is Supreme law which can only be modified (or removed) via an Amendment.

    SCOTUS has no authority to determine that anything within the Constitution is constitutional, it is constitutional by its own definition. The only exception is when and if there is a constitutional question that requires resolution between the powers of the Executive and Legislation branches. SCOTUS then has the power to resolve the question. Having said that, SCOTUS has often perverted the Constitution via "interpretation", for which it has no constitutional authority and for which it unconstitutionally granted itself that power in Marbury vs Madison (1803).

    Agreed, however there is no case to be made for voting on disqualification. That is a remedy constitutionally and exclusively granted to Congress, it's not reviewable.
     
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    Do you you not understand the meaning of the word “impeachment”? Impeachment is about discreditation. An impeachment of the Trump says that what the Trump did, as president, was unacceptable. That it is unacceptable for a president to incite a mob with intent on overturning an election.

    The Trump has already been impeached, this is just a trial to determine the consequences of that impeachment. I’m sure all of the Senators are well aware of what the Trump did. The question is if they find such behavior acceptable or not. Seems to me, an acquittal would only strengthen the reputation of the Republican Party as being anti-democratic, and a bit on the corrupt side, which is what the Party of the Trump is.
     
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    Just making it clear for those following along.
     
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    Incitement to insurrection is a criminal offense. If there is a case to prosecute it can be done in the appropriate branch of government. Impeachment is a three step process. Simply pointing to the first step as a badge of dishonor is similar to pointing to a person charged in a criminal case as someone who deserves society’s disdain. That is counter to our system of innocent until proven guilty. Another Constitutional principle.
     
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    LOL. It wasn't till trump that I realized how many of 'them' there were!! :)
     
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    A former GOP and Senate staffer, 27, has been arrested on child pornography charges

    https://www.businessinsider.com/for...-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges-2021-2
     
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    I know exactly how our system works, as opposed to how Democrats actually want it to work.
     
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    So you think the Native American s were the founders of today's America. You started your reply with ignorance and now you have
    descended into fantasy. The Native American s were a collection of warring tribes any thoughts that they could remotely establish a government is pure fantasy. Teaching history to right wing Americans is like giving sight to the totally blind.
     
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    Please point out the exact words below, that lead you to believe I don't know anything about the FF.


    Why do you think the founders wanted a lame duck president to be able to go on a consequence free crime spree before leaving office?
     
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    You've been shown it isn't illegal. SCOTUS has no say in the matter, as they have no jurisdiction over impeachments. Congress has the sole authority.
    the constitution specifically states congress has the sole authority. SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over impeachment proceedings.
     
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    You continue to spout nonsense as though it were fact.
     
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    So if it were found in the last week of Biden's term that some of those China allegations had some truth to them, you
    would be arguing that Biden shouldn't be impeached and tried in the Senate even though he had left office ...

    Righttttt.

    Whatever, dude.

    Who ever argues that a President has free reign to do anything he wants in his last two weeks of office just because
    Congress doesn't have time to conduct and conclude an impeachment process is wack. Plain and simple.
     
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    Don't be silly, do some research and come back later.
     
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    I continue to correct you on constitutional law. SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over impeachments. None. The constitution is crystal clear that congress has THE SOLE AUTHORITY.
     
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    Nope I'd be arguing that he be arrested by the relevant federal agencies and put on trial. I'd not be wasting time with impeaching some one who was out if office. The fact that they refused to do this simply tells you how weak their case is.
     
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