Nikki Haley breaks with Trump: 'We shouldn't have followed him'

You thought wrong.

 

Character is an issue for people of character. Sorry it doesn't matter to you.

 

The republicans lost any interest in ideas. They gave way to this, which is why they lost the House, the Senate, and the White House, in two years.

 

Nikki Haley - The first woman to win the presidency in 2024

 

I'd still give her a strong chance. The Political article tries to rip Haley's character and continue to rip Trump as demons. It's written by a biased liberal political activist "journalist". Whomever Left State Media dislikes the most is probably a strong contender to continue America First policies.

We have two years anyway. I expect there may be 50-100 candidates in 2024.

 

No, your parents don't have to be citizens, so Nikki Haley counts as a natural born citizen as does Harris. Also, some natural born citizens like John McCain were not born on US soil. He was born in Panama.

 

14th amendment was added almost 100 years after the Constitution was written, so it was not written by the Founders.

 

Even Obama asked for a wall in his 2012 immigration reform proposal, but GOP rejected the idea.

She is conservative, and it seems Republicans have moved on from conservatism. I think that will doom her chances, unless the conservatives form a new party (which seems to be in the talks).

 

The wall (border fence) was approved in 2006 by a bipartisan vote. Some sort of barriers were constructed from California to Texas, but stopped at the Texas border.

"During an El Paso speech about immigration reform on May 10, 2011, Obama declared that the fence along the border with Mexico is “now basically complete.” But what the Obama administration built was totally different from what the Secure Fence Act specified."

This is an example of border "wall" plans which Congress approved versus some of the actual results under Bush and Obama....


Planned (under Bush, extended into Obama's first term)....




Actual....




This is your RINO/DINO government hard at work for the people. Wonder what taxpayers spent on that "wall"?

 

700 miles was approved in 2006 and the money which was allocated to it was spent on it by Bush and Obama. That wall, or fence, or whatever you want to call it is.......well, it is what it is. You get what you pay for. If you budget $5000 to buy a car, then don't expect to get a Ferrari.

As for your pictures, the fence was built to those specs in the hot-spots, but obviously the money was not going to be enough to cover the entire the whole border (not to mention only 700 out of 2000 miles was planned/budgeted/authorized).

Note the wording: The Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367), also labelled H.R. 6061, is an act of the United States Congress which authorized and partially funded the construction of 700 miles (1,125 km) of fencing along the Mexican border.

It was advertised as "an important step toward immigration reform"

In 2012 Obama asked for that immigration reform including wall (with triple barrier in hot-spots), but it was rejected for partisan reasons.

 

Oh! So slander and calumny denotes character? Thanks for that bit. Now how about something from me:

WHEN SATAN REIGNS!

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Whatever's false they'll say it's true
and throw the lies back onto you.

And what is right they'll say it's wrong.
Then woe to all, it won't be long.

When everyone will wear a frown.
For what is 'up', they'll call it 'down'.

Then try to make the day a night
so dark can reign, without the light. - Jeannette​

 

Well, I suppose that we can't agree on historical facts. You provide no link to match your opinion.

Obama ignored border security, even when he had majority support of the House and Senate. As with Obama's other failures, he simply blamed Republicans and never took any personal responsibility for his own shortcomings as a leader.

He wanted more open borders and concessions for migrants; Republicans wanted more border security. Obama refused to negotiate with the very little time he even focused on immigration issues.

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"The takeaway here is that Obama showed little will to lead on this issue during his first year, and many members of his own party seemed uninterested in comprehensive changes at that time — not just Republicans.


Let’s look at how Obama dealt with immigration after 2009, even though he promised to enact revisions during his first year.


The president mentioned immigration only once during his 2010 State of the Union Address, saying, “We should continue the work of fixing our broken immigration system — to secure our borders and enforce our laws, and ensure that everyone who plays by the rules can contribute to our economy and enrich our nation.”


Again, Obama offered no specific policy proposals on what needed to be done to reach a compromise.


This is in stark contrast to Bush, who delivered a prime-time television address outlining a five-point plan for overhauling the nation’s immigration laws in 2006. The former president talked in-depth about what he expected: A temporary worker program, criminal background checks for immigrants, biometric identification cards and requirements for a “pathway to citizenship” that would include paying taxes, learning English and proving several years of employment."

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"Obama asked again for a bipartisan agreement to overhaul immigration laws after 2010, but Republicans demanded stricter border enforcement first."

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...6997958-0721-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html

 

Unfortunately, all the damage by this association has already been done.Nikki is just positioning herself for a run for an elected office and trying to avoid the toxicity of Trump. Too little, too late and not enough. I hope businesses take Forbes advice and not only not don’t hire anyone who worked for Trump, but don’t donate anything to their political ambitions either. She’s an opportunist.

 

I'm just bothered by the idea that we allow ourselves to be treated as a 'region" rather than a country where cheap labor roams to where the work is as if they were migrating geese or something.
The only rational reason to import poverty is to suppress wage demands of regular law abiding workers.

 

Obama was quite strong on deporting illegal aliens.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...ts-and-deportations-have-changed-under-trump/

In fiscal 2018 – the most recent year for which complete data is available – CBP and ICE together carried out 337,287 removals of unauthorized immigrants, a 17% increase from the previous year, according to the Department of Homeland Security. But removals remained below the levels recorded during much of the Obama administration, including a three-year period between fiscal 2012 and 2014 when there were more than 400,000 per year.

 

Yes, he was Deporter in Chief. When our leader doesn't prevent illegals from entering there are more to send out. Same thing will happen under Biden. Biden already had to re-open some of the "children's cages" in Texas due to soft-talk on migration and telling states to stop planned deportations for 100 days.

 

I didn't offer any opinions, only what actually happened.

PS Don't expect me to defend Obama, but facts are facts. I didn't vote for him, but he did push for the immigration reform, including the wall, and contrary to what Hannity, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have told you, he did not have open borders. He deported more illegals than anyone before him, or after him (so far).

How many times was he supposed to repeat it? Most people get it the first time.

 

Obama didn't stop apprehending people at the border. Sigh.

 

I, too, hate being put into a position to defend presidents I didn't like. I didn't like Obama, but I'm not going to blame him for **** he didn't do.

 

I linked a Washington Post article (hint: know to be left-leaning). You still have your memories of events, and no links.

We can agree he was Deporter in Chief. He also built the "cages" to put children in. That's what happens when a leader fails to take any action to make sure the border remains secure.

 

Trump was honest about it. He admitted that the situation few years into his presidency was the EVER BEFORE. That means it was worse than in the 1980s when 1.6 million illegals per year entered the US. During obama years it was around 400K, so Trump quadruples the numbers.

 

Couple of problems with your link:

1. It was a blog
2. It did not say the border was open (which would have been a lie anyway)

Deporter in Chief? Sure. Ok.

He wanted to build a wall, but the Congress rejected the idea. What can a "leader" do without resources? Congress needs to authorize the money. That's why the WH is the "executive branch". They execute laws, but they can only do so if given the resources.

 

Blog or not, it's a part of the WaPo. In the age of digital newspapers there is no difference: same writers & same editors. I'm a subscriber.

 

I like the new conspiracy theory floating about by the Democrats that Trump's followers are a cult, when they should be taking a good look at themselves and what they're doing and what they have now become. The harassments, threats and coercions by the left, is no different than the injustices which sickened our consciences in the past and threw us into WWII.

As for Haley, yes she is an opportunist and bowed to the worse elements in our government as long as it was politically expedient.

 

About the author: he lived in New Zealand for eight months and worked as a commercial fisherman and fruit picker.

Either way, the blog title is this "Obama’s failed promise of a first-year immigration overhaul".

That it true. He did not deliver immigration overhaul in his first year. He was not able to get Congress to pass one. Blog, or not, it still does not support the "border was open" claim.

Does it make sense to make a baseless claim, and then attach a link, which does not support the claim in any way, shape or form?