Feeling any more sympathetic to Meghan Markal after Oprah interview?

They will all sort it out amongst themselves - or they will not. Why do we need to pick sides or pass judgements?

 

Both William and Harry's wives are beautiful women and who can deny this? I would hope the British people would take to them respectivly. The British people took to Diana with open arms and it was well worth it.

 

Diana was deified after her death but she was equally attacked by the British media in her lifetime, especially after she dated a Pakistani man. No wonder Harry thinks that history repeats itself.

 

It could happen. But nothing is for certain.

 

Any of them can leave at any time. It's been that way for a hundred years.

 

Where was her empathy?

I'm not the one with a bizarre need to justify a lack of empathy on camera, after ****ing over her husband's relationship with his family and heritage.

 

What Pakistani? If you're referring to Dodi el Fayed, he was Egyption. And no one cared about his ethnic heritage, or even his religion. That relationship was considered a scandal PURELY because he was the son of of 'shopkeeper'. That was uncool back then, when fooling around with commoners was still 'difficult'.

 

They're Germans and Greeks, actually. There has hardly been any Brits in that family since the Tudors. And they were an anomaly themselves ... usurping the French, who'd been swanning around the castles since the Normans were in charge.

 

A thousand year old legacy says naming new members shouldn't be a free for all.

 

There's a thing they COULD have done, to avoid all that. Abdicate and live a completely private life, staying out of the public eye and ear entirely. Someone suggested New Zealand (should always have been a Commonwealth nation, as Harry's last connection to his heritage, and because Commonwealthers would have respected a choice of privacy), and I second that. New Zealanders, like Australians, aren't impressed by celebrity. We're far more likely to be impressed by a surgeon, than by a tv star.

So it's funny how they chose Los freaking Angeles, and do interviews talking about the very thing they wanted to see the back of, no? Just as though they didn't REALLY want to be 'left alone to live their lives'.

I sure hope you're not this naive in other areas of your life, MG.

 

I think they have shown that it's not so easy.
It caused a full blown constitutional crisis the previous time it happened.

 

Another example of how badly you get treated when you choose to leave the firm.

 

Wherever they had chosen to go they would have been hounded by the press. I'm sure they would have loved to be left alone to live whatever life they wanted but it's naïve to think it would be possible, even in New Zealand. Hopefully it will be a little easier for the next royal who chooses to live their own life. A right we should all have, no matter the accident of our birth.

 

The Brits did welcome both with open arms. The problem with Markel started when she began preaching about global warming while jetting around in private airplanes. Now she's really blown it. She'll be about as famous as Fergie pretty soon (in the UK, anyway).

 

Did you learn all of this from your last chat with her?

I can't believe how many people have formulated opinions and feel so strongly about people they've never met or to whom they have no connection!

I watched the interview and was most interested in the royal family being referred to as a corporation or institution. Which, of course, it is. I didn't come away with sympathy or animosity toward them. I simply saw two people who chose to get 'their side' of the story out into the public. I can't fault them for that, as the British press has not held back in their views of them.

 

Agreed! A young man who lost his mom at a very early age because of the incessant hounding of the press - and is now seeing his wife being berated incessantly by the same press. Why wouldn't he want to leave and live his own life? It's something that, I think, anyone would do.

 

So now you think you have a right to tell them how to spend their money as well as what to name their children.
Do you have an opinion on acceptable haircuts or which breakfast cereals they can eat?

 

It's totally irresponsible. And yes, Harry does have an obligation to spend his money prudently, because in some sense it's not really "his". It's "royal family money" that he will in turn pass down to his children. He inherited the money from Princess Diana. Once he runs through all that money, it won't be easy, or will be impossible, to replenish it.
And I'm pretty sure Harry himself is not the driving force in spending that money. It wouldn't take much money to keep Harry happy.

When you're a member of the royal family, you don't get to have total freedom and live your personal life totally however you want. There are some obligations there. Not harsh obligations, but some very basic ones.

I believe the Queen knows this better than anyone, and that's probably going to be the primary reason she is going to distance herself from them, and passively/silently express her disapproval in private.

 

Er what? Are you the decider of how people can spend their inheritance? Please do tell me what I can and can't spend my inheritance on, before I get too carried away. I got it in 2012, so share quickly, so I can meet your standards of responsible inheritance spending going forward.

 

You sound like an entitled progressive liberal here.

It doesn't matter what I think. But Charles and the Queen are going to have their own opinion.

And the British tabloids are free to express theirs.

 

The Queen can tell me how to spend my inheritance?

 

You are missing the point.

It's not really all just "his" inheritance. What part of that don't you get? It's more like a family inheritance. Especially when you're a member of the immediate royal family. You have to think about the future generation. You don't want them not to have any financial means, fitting to a member of the royal family.

He is like the steward of that family money. Yes, he can spend some of it and enjoy himself a little, but he totally betrays his responsibility if he blows it all like someone who just won the lotto. That totally reveals a trashy type of character, unbecoming of a member of the royal family.

 

Sorry, no. His money is his money. Period. End of story. If it were the Queen's money, he wouldn't have access to it.

Quit worrying about what other people do. You have no authority and no right to tell other people what they can and can't do with their own money.

 

Also, what type of entertainment they can consume, what clothing they are allowed to wear, etc.

Oh, wait, that's why Harry left. He didn't want to live under those restrictions anymore.

Ponderous.

 

And you seriously wonder why they were kicked out of the royal family?

Yes. But Meghan still wants to live like a princess.