The Architecture of Right Wing Propaganda

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    Those accusations were made by people who had knowledge, directly or indirectly, of his behavior. They weren't created from whole cloth by a media personality making up conspiracy theories for ratings.
     
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    That is essentially the same kind of speculation Carlson engaged in and has no business being promoted on a "news" network.
     
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    Naw, he's just quoting from the Democratic Playbook.....
     
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    It seems you are assuming way too much here. You're taking my comments way off into a different direction. The topic is propaganda promoted by media.
     
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    While that may be true, the concept of eye-witness accounts is considered unreliable in the sense that a dozen people can witness the same event and come up with a dozen versions of what happened. Regardless, I'm not challenging any of those Kavanaugh witnesses, I'm merely saying that there is evidence and there is proof. Witnesses can offer claims as evidence, but that's not physical proof. In this kind of situation, it boils down to what our personal biases consider to be truth. And I'll admit I was biased against Kavanaugh.
    Agreed. Carlson is spreading disinformation. He's intentionally using unproven claims and carefully worded language to sow doubt and trigger outrage. And he seems to be getting the kind of results he wants. This is becoming the norm and unfortunately, a business model.
     
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    The topic is right wing media propaganda. You tried to make it about the media in general.
     
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    Free speech, so difficult for some.
     
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    Absolutely true. It's a problem across the board, even though it's not done as overtly as Right Wing media.
     
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    Tiring.Been there ... done that.Seen that.Heard that.
    It's called ...
    Projection !
     
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    When free speech becomes propaganda and disinformation, it becomes difficult to justify.
     
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    The point is, there were two people not named. There’s only a couple reasons for them to not be named.

    Would you mind telling us what those reasons are?
     
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    Name the Conservatives or Conservative sites where Propaganda
    is an hourly event.The Steele Dossier was a Lie.
    Propaganda was used to spiel.- Russian Collusion - was a Lie.
    Even more spieling.
    Quid Pro Quo was a lie,used for the rushed Impeachment trial and vote.
    BLM is a Lie.
    White Supremacy is a Lie.
    More people in the U.S. are struck by Lightening than by a White
    Supremacist.
     
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    Like the Russia collusion delusion where democrats and media and tech giants were all in on it.
     
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    Go to post # 64.And prove it's deceit.
     
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    Right, so if even Snopes says it's misleading, you've got an issue.
     
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    I don’t see a great change from 1956 and what President Trump tried to do.

    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/republican-party-platform-1956

    Republican Party Platform of 1956

    Declaration of Faith

    America's trust is in the merciful providence of God, in whose image every man is created ... the source of every man's dignity and freedom.

    In this trust our Republic was founded. We give devoted homage to the Founding Fathers. They not only proclaimed that the freedom and rights of men came from the Creator and not from the State, but they provided safeguards to those freedoms.

    Our Government was created by the people for all the people, and it must serve no less a purpose.


    Taxation and Fiscal Policy

    The Republican Party takes pride in calling attention to the outstanding fiscal achievements of the Eisenhower Administration, several of which are mentioned in the foreword to these resolutions.

    In order to progress further in correcting the unfortunate results of unwise financial management during 20 years of Democrat Administrations, we pledge to pursue the following objectives:

    Further reductions in Government spending as recommended in the Hoover Commission Report, without weakening the support of a superior defense program or depreciating the quality of essential services of government to our people.

    Further reductions in taxes with particular consideration for low and middle income families.

    Initiation of a sound policy of tax reductions which will encourage small independent businesses to modernize and progress.


    Business and Economic Policy

    The Republican Party has as a primary concern the continued advancement of the well-being of the individual. This can be attained only in an economy that, as today, is sound, free and creative, ever building new wealth and new jobs for all the people.

    Small Business

    We pledge the continuation and improvement of our drive to aid small business. Every constructive potential avenue of improvement both legislative and executive—has been explored in our search for ways in which to widen opportunities for this important segment of America's economy.

    Labor

    Under the Republican Administration, as our country has prospered, so have its people. This is as it should be, for as President Eisenhower said: "Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."

    The Eisenhower Administration has brought to our people the highest employment, the highest wages and the highest standard of living ever enjoyed by any nation. Today there are nearly 67 million men and women at work in the United States, 4 million more than in 1952. Wages have increased substantially over the past 3 1/2 years; but, more important, the American wage earner today can buy more than ever before for himself and his family because his pay check has not been eaten away by rising taxes and soaring prices.

    Furthermore, the process of free collective bargaining has been strengthened by the insistence of this Administration that labor and management settle their differences at the bargaining table without the intervention of the Government. This policy has brought to our country an unprecedented period of labor-management peace and understanding.

    We applaud the effective, unhindered, collective bargaining which brought an early end to the 1956 steel strike, in contrast to the six months' upheaval, Presidential seizure of the steel industry and ultimate Supreme Court intervention under the last Democrat Administration.

    Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex;

    Human Welfare and Advancement

    Health, Education and Welfare

    The Republican Party believes that the physical, mental, and spiritual well-being of the people is as important as their economic health. It will continue to support this conviction with vigorous action.

    Republican action created the Department of Health, Education and Welfare as the first new Federal department in 40 years, to raise the continuing consideration of these problems for the first time to the highest council of Government, the President's Cabinet.

    Through the White House Conference on Education, our Republican Administration initiated the most comprehensive Community-State-Federal attempt ever made to solve the pressing problems of primary and secondary education.

    We have supported the distribution of free vaccine to protect millions of children against dreaded polio.

    Republican leadership has enlarged Federal assistance for construction of hospitals, emphasizing low-cost care of chronic diseases and the special problems of older persons, and increased Federal aid for medical care of the needy.


    Rural America's Recovery—Agriculture

    The men and women operating the farms and ranches of America have confidence in President Eisenhower and the Republican farm program. Our farmers have earned the respect and appreciation of our entire nation for their energy, resourcefulness, efficiency, and ability.

    Agriculture, our basic industry, must remain free and prosperous. The Republican Party will continue to move boldly to help the farmer obtain his full share of the rewards of good business and good Government. It is committed to a program for agriculture which creates the widest possible markets and highest attainable income for our farm and ranch families. This program must be versatile and flexible to meet effectively the impact of rapidly changing conditions. It does not envision making farmers dependent upon direct governmental payments for their incomes. Our objective is markets which return full parity to our farm and ranch people when they sell their products. There is no simple, easy answer to farm problems. Our approach as ever is a many-sided, versatile and positive program to help all farmers and ranchers.

    Federal Government Integrity

    The Republican Party is wholeheartedly committed to maintaining a Federal Government that is clean, honorable and increasingly efficient. It proudly affirms that it has achieved this kind of Government and dedicated it to the service of all the people.

    Our many economic and social advances of the past four years are the result of our faithful adherence to our 1952 pledge to reverse a 20-year Democratic philosophy calling for more and more power in Washington.

    Civil Service.

    We will vigorously promote, as we have in the past, a non-political career service under the merit system which will attract and retain able servants of the people. Many gains in this field, notably pay increases and a host of new benefits, have been achieved in their behalf in less than four years.

    The Republican Party will continue to fight for eagerly desired new advances for Government employees, and realistic reappraisement and adjustment of benefits for our retired civil service personnel.

    Equal Rights.

    We recommend to Congress the submission of a constitutional amendment providing equal rights for men and women.

    Civil Rights

    The Republican Party points to an impressive record of accomplishment in the field of civil rights and commits itself anew to advancing the rights of all our people regardless of race, creed, color or national origin.

    In the area of exclusive Federal jurisdiction, more progress has been made in this field under the present Republican Administration than in any similar period in the last 80 years.

    The many Negroes who have been appointed to high public positions have played a significant part in the progress of this Administration.

    Segregation has been ended in the District of Columbia Government and in the District public facilities including public schools, restaurants, theaters and playgrounds. The Eisenhower Administration has eliminated discrimination in all federal employment.


    Immigration

    The Republican Party supports an immigration policy which is in keeping with the traditions of America in providing a haven for oppressed peoples, and which is based on equality of treatment, freedom from implications of discrimination between racial, nationality and religious groups, and flexible enough to conform to changing needs and conditions.

    We believe that such a policy serves our self-interest, reflects our responsibility for world leadership and develops maximum cooperation with other nations in resolving problems in this area.
     
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    They are also the same in that they didn't involve robbing a bank, to use the same type of reasoning. So why even introduce the concept of "proof" into this debate? This is about evidence. And it's only about evidence in a very broad manner. It's more about not there being so much as an "indication" that these guys were FBI agents.

    My point is that this only happens on the far right. I have yet to see it on the left... or even on the moderate right (which is where most of the MSM is). And, BTW (on an unrelated by similar argument), we should also not confuse lack of evidence with mistakes. Yes, many have made mistakes. Not only the MSM (which is not left) but by actual left-wing pundits. We know they are mistakes because they are corrected as soon as it becomes clear that it was a mistake. Even moderate Fox News anchors make mistakes and correct them. I'm talking about the whole fabrication. This is fabricated from the beginning as a fake scandal. It's what extreme right wingers like Tucker Carlson and Hannity do There is absolutely nothing comparable anywhere but on the far right.

    I guess I take issue with watering down the actions of the far right by insinuating that something similar happens on the left . It does some times. But not the majority of the time.
     
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    My comments whether or not Mr. Carlson is engaging in propaganda. The scenario he outlines is plausible.
     
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    That's pretty consistent to today. Which part do you think has changed?
     
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    So, you think that all of the people who still support President Trump are more right than the fools who support the liberal horde’s movement into the hell hole of socialism? I have to agree. The dem’s liberal horde are the Marxism’s definition of useful idiots and fools.

    I don’t see how anyone can call neo-Nazis right or left. Insanity is uni-political. However, it may be true that the progressives have caused insanity deep enough to make people go off the rails. As for as the ‘far right’, those fools who work hard, produce goods and services for our country, those do seem to be the people who support President Trump. The liberal horde, taught by socialist academics, have taken the average liberal so far left that there is very little middle ground. That was the goal of the “Great PLANdemic”, the promotion and support of ANTIFA&BLM. But the liberal leaders are out of touch with the real people.
     
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    There are probably hundreds of possible reasons why they wouldn't be named.
     
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