I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

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    Once again, when is the better time to bring home massive amounts of gear, when you have 14000 people to do it, or when you have less than 3000?
     
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    The same way the military was wrong about the Iraqi army, but I do not really know why we keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
     
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    The British Parliament just condemned Joe Biden. Do they also have a "mindless hatred" for Dems?
     
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    can you link me to the vote total and the words of the resolution of condemnation?

    And even that they are not blaming him for the gear that was left behind, but for pulling out troops before civilians.
     
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    Did General Milley tell Trump that the Afghans would not fight nor be able to keep the Taliban from seizing those weapons? I doubt it. Do you know why I believe that? Because it was the Pentagon and a bunch of other Washington politicians that wanted the U.S. to REMAIN in Afghanistan.

    It's not all on Joe. General Milley also bears a lot of responsibility, unless he told Joe and Joe ignored him.
     
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    Has the British Parliament EVER issued such a scathing rebuke against an American President?

    I remember all of the leftists that claimed that Joe Biden would "return respect" of world leaders to the White House. What a joke that turned out to be, eh?
     
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    They should have turned the Taliban in to a nonsecular, freedom loving band of peaceniks too but neither was going to happen. Discussing things with you is really not going to be very fruitful if you stick with beliefs not grounded in the real world.
     
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    and I remember when all the Rightys said **** what the world thinks about us.

    What a joke that turned out to be, eh?

    hypocrisy runs deep on both sides, in fact it is impossible to be partisan and not be a hypocrite
     
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    Trump pushed for us to get out of Afghanistan. Mike Pompeo negotiated a deal. Then, Trump was removed from office and Joe Biden took over. Thereafter, Trump was out of the equation.

    As an analogy, it's as if Trump and Pompeo bought the ingredients for a big cookout and then Biden and company badly burned the food and now people want to blame Trump.
     
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    Trump was respected and feared. He was a pillar of strength. Have we EVER had a weaker and more inept president than Joe Biden?
     
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    You truly have drank the kool-aid! Trump was laughed at around the world and was easy to manipulate, as most world leaders found out and did so.

    not weaker, but every president this century has been just as inept
     
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    You've completely lost sight of the fact that the US forces had all they could do to secure the airport to facilitate the evacuation. You make it sound as though getting the military equipment back is easy. You do know the Taliban has around 80K soldiers, right? once the Afghan military collapsed and the Taliban took possession of the equipment did you think they'd just hand it back? You don't appreciate the monumental task you expected the US to accomplish with a diminished force level.
     
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    Yeah well, he's an idiot.

    It wasn't "inevitable" that we withdraw our troops before we got the civilians out. Your source is a moron, though I appreciate his service, it's clear that he is a little foggy on what "inevitable" means.

    The Forever War Isn’t Over: The Afghan debacle just marks a new, more murderous phase.

    This isn't our longest war, we are still at war with North Korea. We have had troops there preserving the stalemate for 70 years. If we abruptly pulled them out, Seul would likely be promptly attacked and could even fall.
     
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    Trump was rightly regarded as a buffoon and an unpredictable loose cannon. The exact opposite of a pillar of strength. Wait.......are you punking me? You don't really believe the nonsense you're writing do you?
     
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    No, nobody was "manipulating" Trump. He was hated by many world leaders because he put the interests of average Americans first, which infuriated the globalists.
     
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    What is inevitable is that the Taliban would replace the government. How badly the evacuation is being done was not inevitable.
     
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    Of course they were, he was easy to do so to, all that was needed was to stroke his ego.

    He was laughed at by many world leaders and viewed as a bully, but that is about it.
     
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    I've noticed your "mindless hatred" of everything Trump.
     
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    Correct
     
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    LOL, the deep state and elitists hated Trump because he couldn't be manipulated like the current puppet in office.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA! Thank you for this jovial start!
     
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    Not at all, I am just honest.

    I was very surprised by and happy by his first two SCOTUS picks, and while I had my doubts about the 3rd seems they might have been misplaced.

    I supported his revamping of Fed Employee Regs making it easier to get rid of dead weight in the Fed Govt workforce.

    I supported his stated desire to get out of endless wars

    Just to name a few, but I am not going to pretend the world did not laugh at him just to make you happy
     
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    No doubt the crowd that screamed uselessly at the sky did not respect Trump but then they went all nuts to begin with.
     
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    Trump was easy to manipulate.
     
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    Ok.
     

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