Thanks to Joe Biden the Taliban Now has Over 200 Military Aircraft — Ranks them as #26 in List of Na

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Imaging God telling them Sorry but nobody told you to kill Americans.
    Those virgins are out of reach.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it provides a nice distraction and excuse for government & the media for not reporting on the vaccine genocide....
     
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    OOH! Now THAT revelation would sure come as a HELL of a big surprise to all the "true believers"....

    So, they wouldn't get the virgins, but would they still be eligible to have the "beautiful boys"...? :cynic:
     
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    "military aircraft" in no way means "combat aircraft". IIRC they have only a couple of dozen single engined, propeller driven combat aircraft.
     
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    Funny, I watched a speech where we saw the President take accountability for himself, unlike the last one we had if anything went wrong, or even might. In fact, even though he isn't still President, Trump recently bashed the one taking responsibility for doing something he swore up and down he would do last year.
    The "pullout" has been a mess. The only way for it not to be is to stay, but then it wouldn't be a pullout.
    And someone had to make the decision of what to do with assets and equipment when they left. They didn't want to leave the Afghan army defenseless, so they left them equipment, which they turned around and gave up as soon as we were gone from areas.
    There was never going to be some "peaceful transition into Democracy" in Afghanistan, mostly because the majority or most aggresive didn't want to change. The only option to NOT have what happened was to leave many troops there. So, to me, the only point of discussion is whether we should have stayed or not. I see the points on both sides, but we accomplished the main objective years ago. If we are going to go around the world and install troops everywhere we don't like a particular government for "x" reason, we're going to be pretty busy and American blood will be shed. Tough decisions, Biden made it, and he is taking acountability for it. Agree with the decisions or not, you have to give credit for standing by it.
     
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    The highlighted bit is probably a slight oversimplification but yes it has been a mess. The issue as I see is that the current Administration did get some few weeks warning that the fall of the Western backed government was imminent via the succession of cities and provinces that started falling to the Taliban a few weeks before they reached Kabul. When that pattern became evident someone should have pushed the panic button and pointed out to the Administration that time was running out to start any planned evacuation. Securing the airport and its immediate surrounds even a week earlier than they did would have been a big help.

    So the big questions are did anyone tell the administration it was time to start acting, when did they tell them and then of course did anyone tell the President and if so when? Biden was always going the be handed this problem because the US pullout fell under his watch. We'll see if we get any clarity but those questions.

    The other interesting point (from my perspective anyway) is that technically the Talaban's military campaign over the past few weeks would seem technically, at least to be a clear violation of the agreement Trump signed with the in the first place. So legally there was no reason for the US and its Allies to stick to the agreement other than the fact they scrupulously avoiding any attacks of our forces as they advanced. So basically it would seem the US had simply had enough anyway and was leaving regardless of what the Taliban did and did not do. And the Taliban would have known for weeks if not longer that this was the case. And nothing of course nothing about that would have changed even if Trump was still in charge.
     
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    Where was it stated that they were all combat aircraft? Please read the article
     
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    When did he count them? And no, that list is the total supply since 2003.

    Oh, and you copy and pasted that but made up your source
     
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    Why don't you add on some hang gliders to the list to bump up the 206 figure?
     
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    The equipment left behind is ancient! China probably made much of it! There was no high spec military gear left behind.
     
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    Ooh, let's add more scare mongering nonsense "top secret software". I used to write "top secret software" so i do know what i am talking about unlike whoever wrote your meme
     
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    You would cause more damage and deaths with a car bomb than you would crashing any of those tiny planes into a building in Afghanistan. Or do you think they are going to fly them to the US?
     
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    China, Russia and other anti-USA actors/enemies have to be thrilled, thrilled with the actions and mindset of the Biden Administration. Comrade Uncle Joe is a useful (traitorous/incompetent/senile-like?) communist bent tool. America's enemies are poised to benefit politically and financially while Her allies and friends are betrayed.

    The main stream media, tech giant leadership, anti-American actors and the Democrat (communist?) Party orchestrated and perpetrated the recent election of Biden. They deceived many American voters.

    I miss President Donald Trump. He ruffled sensitive feathers with his tweets, sure but every freedom loving independent American benefitted by his his policies and the strength his Administration projected both at home and in the world community. He is likely hated by the weak, the selfish and the anti=America crowd.
     
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    implied
     
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    I am sure they all have the instruction manuals also.
     
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    You miss Trump because you are emotionally attached to the bugger not because he is a good leader.If he was a good leader he would have ended the Afghan war day one of his presidency yet tax relief was his only priority and destroying the ACA not Afghanistan.
     
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    Last time I checked, it was the GOP who went nation building, and they lost that war under Donald, who made a deal with the terrorists about the USA giving up which leaving behind all them weapons.
     
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    I bet you say that to all the paper dictators in power.
     
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    Why do people think President Biden was in any way obligated to leave U.S. weapons behind?
     
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    Kill infidels where? The range of the planes they have is fairly limited, so who are they going to target? Pakistanis? Iranians? US is 8000 miles from Afghanistan. Also, the crown jewel of their airfoce, the A-29 Super Tucano (Brazilian propeller plane) is pretty small, and would do limited damage. Also, it wasn't the Taliban who flew the planes in 9/11 it was Al Qaeda. Will the Taliban turn over their arsenal to radical islamists? Who knows, but maybe they will if the price is right, but even then, Al Qaeda would have to get some flying lesson from the Brazilian air force.
     
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    so in other words, it was never stated, you simply pulled that from you know where............................
     
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    Think about what they wanted to do to Bowe Bergdahl.

    What he did is nothing compared to what happened here.
     
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    would you rather he had left the Taliban unarmed? What would that say about us as a Democrat led nation? How could we leave a country without the ability to defend itself?

    Democrat votes have consequences so this was the will of the majority
     
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    Trump has his own style but he sure did for America a teriffic job. I miss him as well.
     
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    I love when clueless post come across my path with someone who doesn't know squat tries to make a claim that is so out of touch, you know they just made it up because they can't find a single source to make their point.

    There is no such thing as a ancient Blackhawk

    Really? And you don't know what systems are on a UH-60L. Because I do. I actually transitioned to the 60A in 1984 at Ft Rucker.
    Those Blackhawks have the latest ILS technology with glass cockpits. No more old gauges.
    External Stores Support System
    Encrypted IFF recognition system
    APR-39 radar warning receiver
    ALQ-144 infrared countermeasures system
    The newest version of the General Electric T700-GE-401C turboshaft engines
    New technology crashworthy fuel tanks
    The latest Hellfire missile system
    2.75 FFAR (folding fin aerial rocket) and pods
    FIM-92 Stinger anti-air missiles
    Hover IR suppression system (HIRSS) that is designed to cool engine exhaust gasses while hovering and in forward flight

    The UH-60A entered service with the US Army in 1978. Production of the new UH-60L began in 1989 with the conversion of all existing UH-60A aircraft to the "L" standard as well as the production of new airframes. They host all upgraded and current weapons, Encrypted communications, and early warning platforms.

    So tell us about how their systems are ancient again and what systems were made it China because you claim to know much more than I do.
     

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