Nursing baby died with blood clots, inflamed arteries following mother's Pfizer shot

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  1. Tejas

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    So sad - poor baby - poor mother

    Stay with the natural immune system God gave you... and stay away from toxic drugs Babylon's death merchants are selling.


    Nursing baby died with blood clots, inflamed arteries following mother's Pfizer shot, VAERS report says

    (LifeSiteNews) – A six-week-old breastfeeding baby became inexplicably ill with a high fever after his mother received a COVID-19 vaccine... The case is the second known account of a breastfeeding baby dying.

    more at link

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/n...lowing-mothers-pfizer-shot-vaers-report-says/

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    This may be another baby dying the same way... but it was covered up.

    Thu, Jun 24, 2021

    The death of a two-month-old baby on Tuesday most likely was due to sudden infant death syndrome, rather than from drinking mother’s milk after the child’s mother got vaccinated against COVID-19 on Monday, doctors have said.

    Responding to the mother’s speculation that the AstraZeneca vaccine had contaminated her breast milk, leading to the death of her child, Central Epidemic Command Center Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices convener Lee Ping-ing (李秉穎) said that no country in the world deems COVID-19 vaccines unsafe for breastfeeding mothers.

    The mother said that she found her daughter with foam and blood on her lips at 3am, four hours after breastfeeding.

    The baby was rushed to a hospital and pronounced dead on arrival.


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    https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2021/06/24/2003759720

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    Oh, yes! It is far better to avoid any possibly of illness from vaccines from the unknown ways a baby might get sick. Its much better to ENSURE that untold 1000s of babies WILL be dying in misery from infections that certainly be prevented by vaccines in order to maybe avoid one child from a vaccine!
     
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    Is that only in the context of COVID vaccines or any medication at all? A new mother will have likely taken lots of different medications and lots of other medications will have been used to try to treat the child when they became ill. Are you stating that they shouldn't have used any of that at?

    A classic tabloid "after" to falsely imply "because". This appears to be based on a blind reading of a VAERS entry purportedly written by the mother herself. Assuming it is valid, that would mean it won't necessarily be clinically accurate (and does have some clear errors) and could be understandably influenced by her emotions in the tragic circumstances. Even in that context, it seems the mother only speculates that the vaccine could have been relevant and asks questions but clearly presents no conclusions.

    Not at all. Sadly there are many young babies who die for all sorts of reasons. It will be increasingly likely that the mother will have receive a COVID vaccine (because more people in general are more pregnant women specifically are getting vaccinated). That doesn't mean that the mothers vaccination is necessarily relevant to a breast-feeding babies death though.

    Do you have any evidence for your accusation of a cover-up or are you just flinging out random libel?
     
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    Life ***** news :roll:
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/

    One of the 12 named “misinformers”
    And how often must we repeat that VAERS is RAW DATA

    now there could be a multitude of reasons why this baby died of clots : we will not know until an autopsy is done.
    https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?IDNUMBER=1532154&WAYBACKHISTORY=ON

    Kawasaki disease

    https://www.rch.org.au/kidsinfo/fact_sheets/Kawasaki_disease/

    https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/reassuring-news-on-mrna-vaccines-for-breastfeeding
     
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    If people who are hesitant about the vaccine were as immature as those wanting to force everyone to vacinate...they would be making Facebook posts and the like standing on the grave of this poor dead child to earn social virtue points.

    Just sayin.
     
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    Blood clots are not that uncommon with women who have covid without the shots.
     
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    Lets check the source before taking it for gospel.

    LifeSiteNews

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    https://www.chrichmond.org/blog/is-it-ok-to-get-the-covid-19-vaccine-when-breastfeeding

    Can breastfeeding women receive the vaccine?
    Absolutely! The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and Academy of Breastfeeding Medicine (ABM) both recommend that COVID-19 vaccines be offered to lactating individuals, similar to non-lactating individuals, when it becomes available to them.

    While lactating individuals were not included in the vaccine clinical trials, it is not recommended to withhold the COVID vaccine from breastfeeding women who otherwise meet the criteria to receive it. We also have a history of strong data from other vaccines that tells us the likely benefits certainly outweigh the theoretical safety concerns. Of the many approved vaccines in modern medicine, only the ones for smallpox and yellow fever are not recommended for lactating women.

    In fact, ACOG advocates that anyone who is pregnant get the vaccine as well.

    Will the vaccine negatively impact my baby's health?
    There’s really no plausible way for the vaccine to have a negative impact on baby's health through breastmilk, but there is a strong likelihood that it will help!
     
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    is that not what this thread is doing, using a case that no one knows what caused it and claiming it was caused by a vaccine
     
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    per the link

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/n...lowing-mothers-pfizer-shot-vaers-report-says/

    "It states that at the end of his two-week hospital stay he tested positive for rhinovirus and was sent home."

    "At home, the baby developed further symptoms over the following week, including a swollen eyelid, “strange rashes” and vomiting. His mother returned him to the hospital July 15 when he was diagnosed with “atypical Kawasaki disease”"

    sounds like he had a virus
     
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    There is a huge difference in visibility between this thread and someone who's tweeting or making a facebook post hunting for virtue. We come here, knowing what to expect and expecting to discuss this type of ****.
     
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    Oh, they are very immature and have made Facebook a total waste of time. I guess it depends on who you have in your facebook list.
     
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    yes, agree there, do not see many of those, most of the obnoxious stuff I see is anti-vax, though it does seem to be getting better
     
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    I have seen multiple posts and news stories "oh look here! huge vaccine denier dies of Covid!"

    And while less rare, I still have yet to see the same type of "person takes vaccine and dies from complications!"

    I'm not seeing it. And I would rather not see any of it. It's the individual's choice. A person electing NOT to get vaccinated is their decision of risk/reward. It holds no impact on anyone else.

    And I say that as someone who thinks the vaccines are safe and has gotten vaccinated. That's MY choice. And I don't give a **** about social pressure when it comes to sticking **** in my body. In the end it's my decision and my risk. And I refuse to discriminate against those who elect NOT to get vaccinated.
     
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    Don't matter a whit...gotta break them eggs to make that omelet, sez the Covidians. :banana:
     
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    You see what your friends post, and I see what my friends post. I am not too active in FB because of all the political nonsense there. They spent 4 years whining about the media and how unfairly poor Trump was treated, and now they whine about Biden. And before that it was all about Obama and "end of America as we know it". It never ends. That and all the ads......enough is enough, but I still look every now and then to see how my 'normal' friends are doing.

    We lost 13 unvaccinated school employees in 10 days in Miami. They took the risk and paid the price. Kids, however, are too young to understand the risk.
     
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    I see, you are claiming you have never been vaccinated your entire life since you use the immune system God gave you...
     
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    Are you suggesting that humans do nothing?
     
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    Yes, I remember the first case. Now this one.

    The first one took only days, this one apparently took weeks.

    Will the mothers ever forgive themselves?
     
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    Kids can't get vaccinated and the parents assume the risk by sending them to school. THANKFULLY the current risk for severe illness to children under 12 is incredibly low. So low that the risk of your child catching COVID is worth the reward of going to school and getting that social experience as well as education.

    Assume that COVID is going to hit the schools. It's going to happen. Unvaccinated or vaccinated, it's GOING to happen. So that being said, nothing you just stated would be impacted any differently had those 13 unvaccinated school employees been vaccinated. Except those individuals who made their choice, would be alive.

    That's on them. And they paid the price. Nobody else was impacted any differently otherwise.
     
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    If they had followed the lead of Sweden last year, the kids and others would have reached herd immunity last year.

    Instead, the various school boards sacrifice their children at the altar of Pharma.
     
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    I think most would agree that dead vs alive is a big difference.

    Then how come it never happened in Sweden? Cases quadrupled this year and total is 10 times more than in Norway/Finland
     
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    That's on the individual. They made a stupid choice, assumed the risk and paid the price. I think of them as I would a person who decides to make any unhealthy choices. Shrug my shoulders and say "oh well!"

    They were allowed to face life on their own terms. And that's what I think should be protected in this case.
     
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    SIAP. You need to provide some epidemiological evidence of this.:roll:
     

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