Preschool Funding in $3.5 Trillion Spending Bill Is Modeled After Failed Head Start Program

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  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Not to the post or author I asked it of. But I didn’t ****ing ask YOU did I either?
     
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    So derailing then. OK have it your way then..
     
  3. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Not even close. He made a point which my question 100% applies too.
     
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    Hardly


    And I don't care, back on topic please....
     
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  5. Yulee

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    You are wrong!

    Do we always get a choice?
     
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    Abortion ( or lack thereof) determines the number of children ...and THAT affects the cost...

    See, more children = more money needed...:) :)
     
  7. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    I really do not want to detract from an important issue such as daycare or pre-school with an intractable argument about abortion. We have a whole sub-forum for that subject. So I respectfully decline to answer that question.
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Mostly yes, but not completely. I think it is poor public policy to base decisions based upon the extreme ends of the bell curve.
     
  9. straight ahead

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    This is nothing but public funding for more teacher's union employees to vote for democrats.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Head Start hasn't failed, It was just never funded enough. Naturally enough conservatives will say that means it's failed since by their lights everything that costs money has failed. These 3 year olds should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and sink or swim on their own. Hunger is a great motivator for toddlers to excel doncha know.
     
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    Except you are the one who brought it up. You cannot have it both ways.

    It’s classic really.
     
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  12. Bluesguy

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    :police:
     
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  13. Bluesguy

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    yep
     
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    I've asked this question in many other threads:
    Why should we be paying for childcare when the costs are more than the mother is earning?
    This is creating a perverse incentive for a mother to send her children away to be taken care of by someone else, even though it just does not make much economic sense.


    I OPPOSE any public subsidized preschool option that does not also have the option of just paying the woman some fraction, say 70%, of that amount if she just takes care of her own children instead of utilizing those preschool resources.

    This is another war on motherhood, separating children from their mothers, and putting them into the hands of public caretakers.
    (Nothing is free. You don't think the families themselves are going to be the ones to have to pay for these free preschools through higher taxes?)
     
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    What do you believe happens when poor women are forced to give birth against their will? This problem compounds.
     
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    We've already discussed this extensively in the Abortion section of this forum.

    There's actually a dire shortage of available white babies. Too many families trying to adopt them.

    I wish there was a way that a young mother could put up her baby for temporary adoption until she was ready to take care of the child.
     
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  17. Bluesguy

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    If you want to argue killing them before they are born is better than having a government daycare for them do that in the abortion section not here. This is about should we fund this program as and expand as is or realize it does not work and modify to provide the necessary basic care for children.
     
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    I strongly suspect that free preschool won't even put a tiny dent in the number of abortions that go on each year.

    Progressives keep promising us that if we give young mothers more free stuff it will reduce the number of abortions, but it never happens.
     
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    Who said anything about ethnicity?
     
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  20. Bluesguy

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    Which is not the point anyway.

    Now can you imagine if a Republican member of Congress proposed such a bill. Even presenting the governments OWN study showing the money is wasted. They would be an immediate MSM fire storm of Republicans HATE CHILDREN.
     
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    I can highlight a parallel anywhere I do choose.
    We must examine the reason these programs are failing and how they are being used. If it is largely poorer families trying to be able to have somewhere to watch their child so they can work that needs to be addressed.
     
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    And it's not just working mothers who send their children to Head Start, we pay for children of NON-working mothers to send their children there during the day. They don't have to take care of them. It's an "early education program" not a daycare, the mother doesn't have to be working.
     
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    Why does a non-working mother need someone to watch their child, the mother working is not a Head Start requirement for enrollment. It is supposed to be an educational program not a daycare program.
     
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    Sounds like the Feminist concept of "Female Liberation", even extending to "liberation from motherhood" for those women who are mothers.
     
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    It has largely failed as an educational program and discussed on page one.

    A non-working mother wouldn’t require a daycare program unless she was searching for work
     

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