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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Wth some very pretty exceptions I think rock and roll should stick to its natural topics: sex and drugs
     
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  2. Kal'Stang

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    Perfectly fine for you to disagree with him. That's normal. I even encourage disagreements.

    What is not right however is to smear someone just because you disagree with them. And frankly that is all that you have done in this thread. You know nothing of the person beyond what few lyrics you've heard from him. Yet you've already decided he's racist and are calling him that...along with other things.
     
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    Art has always been a medium for getting out messages. I see nothing wrong with it for the most part. I would prefer that the leave out the drugs though. Never understood the fascination of drugs. They make it to where you're no longer in control of yourself.
     
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    I absolutely know all I need to about him. He has an album called “if I were black” where he photoshops himself being black. Only you and his trump supporting fans think he’s not racist. You’re probably so defensive of him because he’s one of the few people outside of country you have on your side. And conservatives have been the real snowflakes lately boycotting all the artists and entertainers who are liberal.
     
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    Identity politics. Mmmm.
     
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    There are actually Black people getting killed. Identity politics is when you simply believe what your party tells you. Like a poor redneck who stays Republican when he never actually benefits from it.
     
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    We are many.

    Ryan Upchurch.


    Adam Calhoun


    Struggle Jennings


    Caleb Jacobson


    Topher



    And who have conservatives boycotted?
    This should be adequate to start you off.
     
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    You should probably look at who is killing who.
     
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    Oh yeah they all stand out from eachother. Lol and you even got a token black man at the end to top it off.
     
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    It’s funny how even in the black conservative’s music video it’s still mostly white people being displayed. And a big white cross. I guess they forgot to light it on fire.
     
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    Topher's "The Patriot" charted #4 on Hip Hop, #5 in R&B, and #25 in all digital songs. And he did it without mainstream support or streaming services.
     
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    Doesn’t matter where it charted. What really matters is how long it charted. It probably blew up for a couple of minutes with the people who like it and then went away.
     
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    So you are changing your claim that those songs would never be popular? You said never before, now it's "won't be for long".

    Not surprised.
     
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    Yeah there’s a lot of people in the world. But conservatives never win the popular vote. For every arena y’all could fill we’d fill ten times more than that probably. Most people want a government that cares about them. They’re not privileged. They need help.
     
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    Yet we do fill up stadiums. Y'all don't/can't even fill a high school lunch room.

    And when you say things like "take care of you", do you mean just giving you money and benefits for nothing?
     
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    I said “cares about” and we don’t feel the need to show off the stadiums we could fill. Especially during covid. Donald Trump assembled people in arenas because he’s weak and can only be around people cheering him on.
     
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    We fill the stadiums because we love Trump, Best President, Ever. Amen.
     
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    Spoken like a true cultist.
     
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    So I guess Sticky Fingers and Eminem are racist? They did a song labeled "If I was White". Did/would you call them them racist also? Oh wait...that's different huh?

    I'll bet you don't even know what Tom McDonald's song "If I was Black" is about. You just assumin'. Also I guess all those black people dancing behind him in that video are racist also?

    And look at you, all you can do is cast ad homs. If you truly had anything then you would be debating. Showing actual examples of real racism. Not assumed racism because you didn't bother to listen.

    I can't post the whole song due to copyright but here's the chorus. What is racist about it?

    • "If I was black I'd say **** the police" : That's happening right now.
    • "I'd say **** the whole Klan, I'd put holes in they sheets" : Pretty sure every black person would like to do this. I don't blame em.
    • "If I was black I'd put gold on my teeth ; So if you think I'm broke you would know when I speak" : This speaks to people assuming things about black people just because they're black.
    • If I was black, it's my face on a tee : Talking about being a target
    • R.I.P underneath or my name next to free : Talking about black deaths and being poor
    • If I was black I would die in these streets : Talking about so many blacks dying in the streets (by police as evidenced by next line)
    • Just for speakin' my mind because I had a dream : Being killed while protesting
    So tell me...what is racist about it again? Aren't these BLM talking points?

    But hey, you don't have to listen to me. Listen to these 3 Black Lives Matter reactors:



    "But he ain't sayin nothing not true" says the guy in the middle at the end of the video.

    As for me being "defensive"? I don't need to be defensive for something that is true because the truth speaks for itself.
     
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    Any black people he uses are props. That line about gold teeth is totally racist. I’m not really an eminem fan and he does have a racist song early on in his career about a breakup or something. He’s not black. And just because you spotlight 3 black people who support him there’s still millions who don’t. The cover art is racist alone. If he were black then it would be in his best interest not to minimize Black Lives Matter like he does in his other songs. So yeah pretending you’re black in a song when you’ve built your career on white pride anthems is pretty racist. Doesn’t matter how many black people he pays to dance behind him.
     
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    And it’s funny how the 3 black guys have a Black Lives Matter poster right behind them in their react video almost as if it were placed there on purpose. Total propaganda.
     
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    Here’s a real black anthem. There should be no talk of patriotism when it comes to black pride. That’s complete bullshit right wing propaganda. As scarface says “mother **** that flag”
     
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    Pretty sure at this point that you don't know what racism is. You just spout it because you've been told to.
     
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    Yes, 3 black dudes that have had a BLM poster in multiple react video's for over a year was "placed there on purpose" just for this video. :rolleyes:

    Seriously dude. Your projection and personal biases are simply amazing. You won't listen to anyone. Not even those on your own side.
     
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    If you don't like the flag, you're free to move away from it. You're even free to stay and dis it. You won't get that ability in any other country.

    And for evidence that you don't know what racism actually is...here's the last few lyrics for that song you call a "black anthem".

    Bold: Actual racist slurs. And you don't care. You encourage it. You like it. You love it.

    And the song encourages violence. And you don't care.

    You can keep your actual racist song. I'll stick with Tom McDonald thanks.
     
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