White Texas Property Owner Avoids Arrest After Killing Moroccan Driver

But remember we have to throw the shooters race in there to stir the pot even though it's not relevant to the story at all.

 

Not enough information ...especially if its coming from The Daily Beast.

 

There's only one way to find out. Make sure it's a white person's driveway if you expect to have a thread about you here. Happy hunting.

 

Doesn't have to make sense as long as it can be used to stir the racial chamber pot.

 

I live in what used to be a rural area but is becoming suburbanized by "come-heres" who seem to hate trees anywhere near their tasteless, cookie cutter McMansions.

My intuition told me that the person I mentioned was not a threat because we are building an addition to our already substantial, old farmhouse and I was expecting people to come by and mark the power lines. Additionally, this guy just didn't look like someone who was trying to break in.

My wife & I have lived here for 25 years and I have a target range next to my blacksmith shop. The only things we've had stolen were things taken by people either cleaning or working on the house.

Since we've got two dogs who make quite a racket when anyone comes near the place and I've got firearms hidden at convenient places near our doors, I'm pretty well prepared in case things go sideways and don't feel a need to "shoot first and ask questions later".

Finally, you're right about the response time for LEOs in rural areas. I'm very pleased with our sheriff's department and their deputies but I can understand why their response time is longer and feel that it's my responsibility to reasonably prepared.

Thanks,

 

No, my point was that my intuition was that the meter reader was no threat. I would never shoot a harmless individual no matter how permissive the laws are.

 

I think thats pretty much the case for most as I doubt anyone could get away with that. But those laws exist in Texas that justifies the use of deadly force to protect property. I know repo agents in Texas do door knocks. They don't try and steal a car out of a driveway. I was in the recovery business for a few years and heard some crazy repo stories from guys out there.

 

In Texas at night you can shoot someone committing a felony against you or your property including criminal mischief or criminal trespassing, assuming you were in reasonable fear etc etc.

The worker has the right to be on your property as the utility company has an easement. Don't be silly.

A worker at 8am in uniform is different from a stranger in your driveway listening to loud morracan music and singing at 4am.

The largest difference being at 8am the sun is up and the law is rather more strict on use of force because it is no longer at night.

 

Except he has both a right and a duty to defend his property and expel trespassers. He's not required to wait for aid, as the homeowner whose rights are being violated he has a right to confront a trespasser.
You come on someone's property at 3:42 am, you better be calm and polite and leave when you're told.

 

The OP doesn't clarify whether the man was trespassing or not.

 

The only thing the OP clarifies is a white man shot a moroccan. Imagine that.

 

The article only says that he was parked outside his house. That could mean the street outside his house (not trespassing) or his driveway (highly unlikely). And, no, Texas law doesn't let you just walk up and shoot someone for parking in your driveway. If a salesperson parks in my driveway and knocks on my door to offer me solar panels, I can't just murder him for it.

 

I never made any of those claims. Texas allows you to shot criminal trespassers to protect your property. I have no idea what was going on when the guy got shot. That didn't seem to be an important part of the article. The only important part was a white guy did (X).

 

At night? When the home owner tells you to **** off and you don't?
Its entirely possible.

 

Actually sometimes you do. Many residential lots in Texas extend to the center-line of the street, with a legal right of way attached to the deed. Of course, the legal right of way does give others the right to be there. Just wanted to clear that up.

Also, some are saying the deceased was in the driveway, others are saying he was parked in the street. I don't know.

 

This is a catch 22
The man was defending his property, however, life is precious and we shouldn’t resort to killing as the first option
It seems to me like this man could have just called the police and looked out the window to monitor this person before being trigger happy

 

Well, let's not assume he was being "trigger happy." Just like we shouldn't assume that the deceased attacked the home owner before he was shot.

 

Good point. More information needed

 

You may be right but we have been deprived access to those details. The article says that the police redacted the narrative of the incident. I’d at least like to hear the defense before assuming it is justified. Unlike some people on here, I don’t assume that every white on brown killing is justified.

 

This is just one more that some white thug can just gun down a brown/black person without a care in the world.
It's so normal that even the cops do not find anything wrong with it. Some lives simply still do not matter.
The racism is just so present in the US.

 

There is plenty of information given. Get real. The cops officially mentioned it remains unknown why shots were fired, but do know somebody got killed... yet do not arrest the killer. Seems an obvious case of not judging it to be a murder when a brown/black person gets killed.

 

It says in the article that according to the cops that the motive of the shooter is unknown.

 

Look at how the local media reports:

Caldwell County releases more details on deadly shooting outside Martindale home
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/cal...s-on-deadly-shooting-outside-martindale-home/


Verse how the hyper partisan blogs report:

White Texas Property Owner Avoids Arrest After Killing Moroccan Driver
https://www.thedailybeast.com/white...t-after-killing-moroccan-driver-adil-dghoughi





Andrew Boryga was born and raised in the Bronx, New York and lives in Miami, Florida. He started his journalism career writing for a local newspaper in the Bronx as a high school senior and has since gone on to write for the New York Times, the New Yorker, the Atlantic and other publications. Before coming to the Daily Beast he was a staff writer for the South Florida Sun Sentinel.



Screw that. This guy is not a journalist. He is a political activist disguised as a journalist for credibility.

Stop reading non-sense that leads to this division.

 

So what is missing here? Did he get away with it because the person was on his property? Is this one of those catch 22s like when liberals say abortion isn’t “murder”?
I guess this isn’t “murder” either?
As far as I’m concerned it is but I think it’s best to wait for more details to emerge

 

First, I forgot to type in the word "trespassing" in my question: "Can you shoot people who are simply in Texas?" which should have read "Can you shoot people who are simply trespassing in Texas?"

Also, when I wrote "work clothes", I meant clothes that one would wear to do manual labor, not a uniform.

At any rate, you're right in saying: "A worker at 8am in uniform is different from a stranger in your driveway listening to loud morracan music and singing at 4am."

Since the parking area of my driveway is about 150 yards from the road, I would have been far more cautious if a strange car with an unknown number of occupants was parked in my driveway playing loud music of any type at 4 AM.

As far as the incident that is the topic of this thread, I also feel that there's more to the story than White man shoots POC.

Thanks,