30 Percent of Republicans Say True Americans May Have to Resort to Violence to Save U.S.

Violence solves problems that result from the failure of non-violent efforts. Neither solve things for very long however, because that's how human beings roll: half of us exist to live in chaos.

 

There are more primitives than poets.

 

then how do you explain the fact that some cultures are a LOT less prone to violence than others? what do they know , that the American culture does not??

 

It might depend on where one lives. and the culture of the place.

 

How do I explain it? It’s just a moment in time. Hold on to the straps, it’s going to get rough.

 

Are you making a prediction about a lot more violence coming in this country?? Violence by choice???

 

The Left has corrupted the election process, so the disenfranchised have to take to the streets. That will almost certainly result in violence, possibly to revolution/civil war. They think they'll win, which is why they've precipitated these events, but the Left almost always overestimates how clever they are.

 

From your perspective.......HOW has the "left" corrupted the election process?? Thx.

 

I don’t advocate for violence, but I’m certain it will happen. There are too many people determined to control others, the government being the biggest offender.

 

By the usual Democrat Machine tactics: cheating, gaming the system, changing the rules in their favor, and generally giving the impression that one-man-one-vote isn't true any longer.

The Left replies that there is little evidence that these things occurred, but Americans know how justice in this country has become politicized, so they're not buying the excuses.

Real Americans know they were robbed in 2020, and they are sick to death of having the system used against them. So that leaves taking grievances to the streets. The Left actually thinks they want that, because it gives their authoritarian hearts a thrill to put their enemies down permanently. Hence the "othering" of the right and conservatives. It makes it easier to murder those out of power.

 

If so it will be made based on the alternatives.

 

The left doesn’t realize it yet but there will come a point where patriots say “no more, you’ve gone too far, this we will not submit to. Here we stand with God, we can do no other.”

 

True. A 17 year old with a gun wouldn't be unusual if one lived in Chicago.

 

The 2021 Election and the Leave-Us-Alone-Movement - https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/11/2021-election-and-leave-us-alone-movement-don-feder/

“There are any number of ways to look at the last election: parents versus politicians, revulsion with Biden’s far-left agenda and gross incompetence, outsiders versus insiders and the horror of creeping socialism.

But there’s a simpler way to describe the dynamic at work this year, one that encompasses all of the above. Instead of the Tea Party Movement or a Parents Movement, we have a Go-Away-And-Leave-Us-Alone Movement.

Democrats are control freaks. They get off on pushing people around: telling us what we can’t do and what we must do: stay at home, wear a face mask, get a shot, go green, fight racism, defund the police, fight “transphobia,” give us an increasing share of your income, and so on.

And it’s all for own good. That’s how much they care about us.”​

 

He used it to get power, fame, and he hopes fortunes. He uses it on a daily basis to pull money and adolation from people who have fallen for the scam.

 

No, what Trump did was finally fight back in kind. He didn't do the gentlemanly thing the GOP had done in the past, he gave as good as he got.

Of course, what Trump did to cause all the hatred against him was to commit the inexcusable act of not being an insider. He exposed the established order, GOP and Democrat, and pursued a path that prioritized the best results for Americans in general, not just the connected, so-called elites. And for that, the establishment pulled out all the stops to destroy him.

Trump was far and away the best candidate in 2020, so the establishment colluded against him and picked the most corrupt, least offensive, and least capable opponent in living memory: Joe Biden. And Joe only won by cheating: "We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Yeah, the Democrats said he misspoke, but Americans know it was a Freudian slip.

So, yeah. By now the unserious people (white women, Independents, non-Leftist Democrats, etc.) are waking up and seeing the damage they did because they didn't like Trump's mean tweets. Of course it's too late.

 

Divisive politics have been used as long as there has been societies, I think.
The effects are enhanced as communication advances and people learn to use it to influence people, including politicians.
As it has always been, it's up to each of us to use our critical thinking skills to figure it out.
In the old testament, people are warned against false idols. I would say that anytime an individual is made to be an idol, it is probably a mistake.
America was founded on people accepting new ideas and the understanding that we must constantly adjust our country to keep it going. Liberalism is necessary to keep things moving forward, conservatism is necessary to keep things stable. The balance is what's important, because too much of either is bad long term.
And I think it's important to understand that and not demonize the "others".

 

Numbers game aside. America seems really fractured at the moment. But what are those fracture points guys.
All I read on here is Republicans crap Democrats Crap Blah blah.
And is this forum really representative of Americans (Genuine question)

 

But what did he actually DO! What wrongs did he right, what changes to the corrupt voting system did he make?
I don't see any changes to your dreadful electoral college voting system that came in under Trump. Nothing that returned one man one vote to America. Indeed if you counted one man one vote he would have lost first time round

 

What do you mean by “...came in under Trump?”

 

I mean changes the GOP made to the voting system while Trump was in office.
Trumps big speech was on draining the swamp, but having been elected I saw nothing change?

 

My confusion was your reference to the Electoral College system. That didn’t “come in under Trump”, it’s been the system since the Constitution was adopted, some 240 years ago.

 

No, this forum isn't representative of Americans, so I would caution against using this forum as a point of reference on what America is all about. America is a country in which only about half of the eligible citizens bother to vote, and are mostly disconnected, because of disinterest, from the political process. This forum on the other hand is full of extreme, non-mainstream political opinions (mine included) that taken together are a non cohesive gang of extremists.

 

Is it all BS though? An honest question here. As I myself have never been to the US all my knowledge about the place comes from the internet. And I must admit some portions of it make me really uncomfortable. For example, just recently I remember tuning in on a twitch streamer who was arguing that many of his comrades are making a mistake by shying away from the fact that a Marxist revolution in the US would be painful for some especially in the beginning.

 

There are a number of streams and all are the mainstream for large numbers of people. It isn't that we don't understand each other, actually we do and that is why we can't compromise. We are simply too far apart economically, socially and ideologically.