RITTENHOUSE Verdict unleashes CELEBRATIONS, on the RIGHT

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Stupid BS, typical of your lame Trumper politics.
     
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    Exactly. A common comment I have read here, and heard elsewhere, was that "Rittenhouse had no business being there." But, did the rioters have more of a right to be there? If there were no rioters, and the police were protecting private property, Rittenhouse and his crew would not have felt the need to protect the city. I would argue, that since this was the third night of destructive rioting, looting and arson, and the police refused to protect private property, then Rittenhouse had every Right to be there.
     
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  3. Jack Hays

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    We disagree again. Senators represent states, not people, and the Senate was designed on that basis.
     
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    I imagine because the case re-affirms concepts they agree with. Like the right of someone bringing a semi-automatic weapon in to a highly volatile situation and using it. Rather than arguing over the pretzel logic of self defense I think we should focus on the insanity of open carry/concealed carry laws.

    The text of its (WI's) disorderly conduct law criminally bans “violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous, unreasonably loud or otherwise disorderly conduct under circumstances in which the conduct tends to cause or provoke a disturbance.” But absent a showing of “criminal or malicious intent,” a person may not be charged with disorderly conduct “for carrying or going armed with a firearm . . . without regard to whether the firearm is loaded or the firearm . . . is concealed or openly carried.”

    Think about that. Being publicly “violent” or “abusive” is a potential crime in Wisconsin — unless it entails waiving around a loaded firearm.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judicia...unts-as-self-defense-with-open-carry-firearms
     
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    As with many things progressive these days, the head buried deeply i the sand is certainly one approach of them. This is the case here. We see multiple posters, national leaders of the democratic party, and now even Brandon suggesting that somehow Rittenhouse is a target for federal prosecution. Why? The left/progressives are determined to attack and jail using any possible means the person who galvanize the public into waking up from their woke nightmare where you couldn't challenge or otherwise interfere with the crime wave democrats orchestrated. And that is exactly why a federal charge is being considered. When democrats lose the aspect of fear, they entirely los all of their power. I say it just can't happen soon enough, and the nation is spared more of their criminal assault on the rest of us.
     
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    You mean like the judicial system? Gosh, listen to yourself.
     
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    Conservatives didn't make it special the leftist mob did.
     
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    Yes like weaponizing the DOJ for example. You seem to be cheering.
     
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    @EyesWideOpen ,

    Just a note to explain my previous comments about your posts seeming like two people: I had combined, in my mind, your posts with those of another poster who was, also, new to me. So my bad-- there was a good reason for them to feel like two different people.
     
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    The AR-15 and M4 are designed to make a mess out of people they hit.

    The kid had every right given our gun laws to possess his AR-15 and use it for self-defense. Liberals who don't like the laws need to win elections. This should make the point...

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    Elections have consequences.
     
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    Not when the Constitution was amended to elect Senators.
     
  12. Jack Hays

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    That changed nothing. Senators still represent states, not people; that's why each state gets two, regardless of population.
     
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    The Senate rules are designed/intended to make change very difficult, which is a GREAT thing. They also stop the turrany of the majority. If the Senate only required a simple majority as with the house, legislation would flap with the political winds, changing drastically depending on the most recent election.

    It would be difficult if not impossible to have a stable economy in that scenario, and it would make investment in companies far less attractive.
     
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    Part of the celebration may stem from feeling like we've lost so much for so long.
    Big entertainment is against us, destroying such properties as Star Wars and Doctor Who.
    Big corporate legacy news is encouraging violence against white people.
    Big education is lying to students, teaching white children to hate themselves, and others to hate white people.
    Our last Presidential election appears to have been stolen and we don't know how to fix that and get our Country back.
    A cabal of powerful elites seem determined to turn the US into an impoverished authoritarian **** hole.
    Powerful people from so many directions want to defund the police while allowing criminals to run rampant, burning down entire communities and robbing stores blind. Those stores will soon move out of high crime areas, leaving the most vulnerable without stores!
    We're locked in our homes due to what appears to have been an exaggerated health issue while our *honk honk* POTUS tells us he's losing patience with us if we don't take the jab from his donors, even if we are children or have already had Covid.
    Our economy is shakey.
    Home prices are going insane while inflation destroys our salary and savings.
    Our military has just lost another war in a humiliating manner. One we should not have been in in the 1st place, squandering untold trillions and human lives.
    All of the powers above are doing their best to destroy relations between men and women. They're even convincing children to allow themselves to be sterilized, mutilated and put on a path to suicide through sex reassignment surgery at ever younger ages.

    And then you get this tiny glimmer of hope. A young man was able, with all of the deliberate misinformation about him out there, to defend himself. Like a breath of fresh air and worth celebrating.
     
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    It's arguably the most anti-democratic decision made during the founding.
     
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    I Type Slow for the Ideologues



    #1) The crime is the unlawful discharge of a firearm.
    No Registration, license, permit, open or concealed

    #2) see # 1


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    Don't Further :flagcanada:ize
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    It was intended to be anti-democratic, so the Founders succeeded.
     
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    Not in the ways it has manifested itself. Remember, these were days before national political parties.
     
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    No, most of right expected the verdict. The celebrations are about protecting the right of self protection which would have been seriously damaged with a murder conviction. Everyone involved in this event was stupid. Rittenhouse was stupid for attending the riot and for bringing a gun. The people he shot were stupid for attending the riot and then threatening the life of person with a gun and then attacking him. It was a tragedy but, at least, the right person survived.
     
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    Nope. It's working exactly as designed. George Washington is said to have told Jefferson that the framers had created the Senate to "cool" House legislation just as a saucer was used to cool hot tea.
     
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    The Federalist party was formed in 1789 two years before the election of John Adams who founded it. It was followed shortly by the Republican party which was headed by Thomas Jefferson. There were political issues well before the constitution was drawn up in 1787. The two political parties simply organized the issues.
     
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    Adams was elected Vice President in 1788, and was elected President in 1796.
     
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    Thanks. I was counting from the adoption of the constitution rather than the first election. My bad.
     
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