Ron DeSantis accompanied wife to cancer treatment while critics claimed he was 'missing'

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  1. Kranes56

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    Some emergency did pop up though. COVID rates spiked like they did last year. Florida needed him. I think you’re right though. I don’t think there was anything else he could have done.

    Yeah I read that fox news article too. Complete lack of context and clearly a hit piece.
     
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    Oh it was an absolute hit piece. Doesn’t change the fact she was maskless in Florida for vacation.
     
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    Prove it was for vacation. The article doesn’t say why she was there. Which is really dumb.
     
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    I take it as a given that most progressives just abandon their loved ones when they get life threatening illnesses. DeSantis supporting his wife by being there in her darkest moments makes no sense to them or apparently you. When my wife was being treated for cancer I missed weeks of work supporting her. She survived and was very grateful that I was physically there for her during her suffering.

    This is the biggest difference between progressives and conservatives. Progressives are very in touch with the suffering of people who live far far away whom they can virtue signal about... not so in touch with the suffering of their friends and family. Conservatives wonder why progressives are relentless in their attacks on the nuclear family. It isn't really difficult to understand why when you finally realize that progressives lack normal human emotions towards their own family members.

    Haidt proved the above DECISIVELY with his book on moral foundations.
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    She was drinking booze in Miami Beach because it helped combat the record Covid infection rate in New York. She just hasn't explained why yet. I am sure progressives will make up something.

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    I'm glad she recovered well.
    Interesting sweeping statement. My mother died of cancer around 5 years ago, after a 12 year battle. I cut short an overseas trip on two occasions to help, however I was able to keep working (and simply had to). Not all cancer treatments are brief. My father has had a long battle with cancer. This year his partner had a similar battle. Every week for the last year at least, regardless of wherever we are in the world we Skype together as a family, including my two siblings to keep in touch and support each other.
    You should check out some theories on dehumanisation (that's what you've done mate), to complement your bevy of theories of the "other". An example from the faculty that I worked in:

    https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/scholarlywork/872811-dehumanization-and-infrahumanization
     
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    I did not realize it took 2 men 2 months to watch a newborn either... I am sure you were equally appalled for that instance as well?
     
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    Or she is simply enjoying a bit of intimate time with her partner on holiday - like a normal human being. There we go - Dehumanising again?
     
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    Sorry, I have no idea what you're saying.
     
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    Wasn't DeSantis able to do his job at the same time?
     
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    Have you ever had a spouse who was undergoing chemotherapy? I have. It isn't easy. Some chemotherapy treatments are so onerous that it completely wipes out the patient to the point that getting up to go to the bathroom or getting something to eat will exhaust the patient for hours. Being the caregiver of a spouse with cancer may be the most difficult thing I ever went through, both physically and mentally. It absolutely is such hard work.

    And lets get right down to it. What sort of husband, or person for that matter, would abandon their spouse undergoing chemotherapy between Christmas and New Years to pretend to care about what is turning out to be a bad cold? Would the leftist media accuse him of wonton inhumane behavior if he wasn't with his wife? Of course they would. So if he is going to be criticized for being with his wife or being criticized for not being with his wife, aren't we making the de facto argument that Rick DeSantis is being criticized for having a wife with cancer? How can any moral individual support that criticism?
     
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    Every American has lost a loved one to cancer.

    The problem here is that, as is often the case, conservatives only empathize when a tragedy hits close to home.

    Florida's record against Covid is a national disgrace.

    And DeSantis has done everything he can to sabotage the citizen protection measures advocated by public health.

    But when he disappears for two weeks to care for his wife, we should all feel sorry for him?

    .... But the fact that he is away may be good news in the end, since he can't hurt anyone during that time.
     
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    I've lived in Florida my entire life and I cannot remember any governor telling Floridians "I'm going to be gone for a few days", ever.
     
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    It's really no big deal.
     
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    That isn't the issue. The salient question is whether you have supported a spouse going through cancer treatments? If you haven't, then you I respectfully suggest you have no idea what is involved in it. I certainly hope you never find out what it is like.

    Do you have any evidence of this? I am moderate-conservative and I empathize with anyone who is supporting a spouse through cancer treatments, regardless of their political affiliation. I think that your use of the word 'only' is highly questionable since it is only necessary to find one instance of someone showing empathy to disprove your assertion, and I have already done that.

    I cannot see a way in which this is relevant. And I doubt that Florida is uniquely bad in dealing with Covid. Only New York has that distinction.

    How so? Please be specific. He ended shelter in place faster than most other states, but it turns out locking people in close confines indoors actually was detrimental to health outcomes.

    Of course. It is basic human empathy. If you ever went through what he is going through, you would know this to be true.
     
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    What’s with all the leftists and Florida? Last year during covid big Gretch split for a while on a private jet(oops, caught ya) To go to Florida when under lockdown.
     
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    And they're outside.
     
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    Now that you mention it….. I wonder when stupid Xoe is gonna cure cancer like he promised us.
     
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    Let me be more specific.

    DeSantis ran this pandemic as a political tool to prove to voters that he placed his view of individual liberties above public health policy.

    He bears a huge part of the blame for the results Florida is experiencing today.

    Has he shown any empathy for the horrific impacts of this pandemic on Floridians?

    No.

    A governor can make decisions that kill people, and DeSantis has killed many.

    But today, because the disease is affecting HIS family, we should be compassionate and excuse his absence....
     
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    Unless you are in Florida and Getting REAL FIRST hand news about DeSantis, you can believe none of it. He has continuously been like Trump, a lie, cheat, and refuses to allow real news to ask him questions. He will create Propaganda for one news network, or FOX, the family photos, the showing up for profile pictures at ANY Disaster for the Public Relations.
    Before some RNC worker comes on here and says I am a lib. and why I write this, be it known, I cant stand the Liberals' either and their giveaways too all.

    We find ourselves at a crossroad where you must choose between a white guy (most of the Desantis, Trump, Brian Mast, Roger Stones, of the world) whom are always willing to lie to forward an agenda and the AOC whom think you can give away money forever and that solves problems.

    Which one of these two want to have a RULING POTUS ? One that will take away your right to assemble as in Florida
     
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    I wouldn't put it past DeSantis to create a Cancer story, then stick too it, tell the lie FOREVER and Never tell the truth. Alternative Fact Republicans can do whatever they want, their followers will still support, no questions asked.
     
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    As dumb as the Liberals are, it is even dumber to Support DeSantis, he has continually taken from Floridans, lied, doesn't allow question, or even comments to reality. Just another Bully Trump
     
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    This is also how the RNC, Roger Stone manufacture votes from Gullible Americans. Say you are a Cancer Survivor, and on the fence as to which side you want to vote for... You have DeSantis go with his Wife, then leak to the MSM that DeSantis has been seen in Mexico, or on some Vacation and no one has seen him. Then, the MSM is dumb enough to repeat it.... Then the RNC plays off of that calling FOX Knucklehead nation to its follower... "MSM attacks DeSantis while accompanying poor wife to Cancer Treatment"

    No one knows the truth, but all gullible Fools remember is MSM attack Cancer patient a fine white women
     
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    And there it is.... (the gullible american) stands up and cheers !
     

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