Thoughts of an old steelworker.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ray9, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the former President decides where the government spends its own money.
     
  2. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    were there bids taken on the services trump was providing??

    or did trump just say he could provide the services cheaper than anyone else??

    the people that follow trump not only are afraid to question him they feel the need to agree with him

    please do a search on trumps golfing expenses.. trumps golfing expenses broke all time , world wide records...even oil shieks do not spend the money trump did in golf

    even with the facts in black and white and right in front of them,

    trump has some people brainwashed and when the facts are in front of them they deny the facts

    but mostly trumpers just ignore the facts and believe the vile of their dear master
     
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  3. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump does. He makes sure they stay at his properties where he can charge money for it.
     
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  4. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    correct..

    former presidents have no power and make no current decisions

    but the current president makes decisions every day where money is spent

    Biden spends money every day..just like trump did

    remember trump spent billions on a wall that would actually help the corrupt mexicans

    it stopped the poor and hungry but created more corruption than ever

    steve bannon had to be pardoned because of the scam he was found guilty of about the wall
     
  5. Grey Matter

    Grey Matter Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you mean to finish with "we may not lose it all if we are very lucky"?
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush did not charge them rent
     
  7. FreshAir

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    yes, but we're talking about Trump profiting off this... I would not care if he stayed somewhere else and the rent covered

    Trump did not try to spread the wealth, he tried to pocket it
     
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    If they slept in his farmhouse I would guess they paid rent but for temporary quarters maybe not. Biden charged secret service rent for a house next to his residence when he was vice president. The Clintons charged rent for a facility on their property in Chappequa (sp). I don't know if LBJ charged rent, but we did give him a commercial-sized runway. BTW it is extremely hard to find out this type of information other than for Trump because Trump is all the public media, search engines and social media care to talk about.
     
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    Trump took it to a level never seen before
     
  10. RodB

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    Blah, blah, blah. Sounds like TDS tailing. I suppose his business charging rent for their golf carts, which is their business, is the same reason he donated every penny of his salary as president.
     
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    Dodged a bullet and stepped right into the path of another bullet.
     
  12. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    is that what you sound like, thanks for letting us know
     
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    Trump was the natural evolution of the Republican Party. We haven’t dodged anything.
     
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    Right!! It’s the same people on here still complaining Trump, Trump, Trump with same tired complaints, and they still can’t give one positive thing biden has done for the taxpayers of this country.
     
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    Here's a news flash for ya nobody supports what Russia is doing.
    From someone who supports Democrats that is laughable at best.
     
  16. Ray9

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    Let's see what is really important. Is it that Washington conducted a fraud election emboldening a nuclear-armed enemy to invade another country or that Trump rented some golf carts to the Secret Service? Does anyone seriously believe that if Trump had stayed in the White House Putin would have attacked Ukraine? Trump said repeatedly that he wanted to disband NATO as a relic of the Cold War which ended in 1989. The Biden administration was so arrogant and aggressive that it attempted to force Ukraine into Nato because that would support their false narrative that Russia interfered in our election and Putin needed to be taught a lesson. The Biden administration regards Trump as a much greater threat than Putin and is willing to risk atomic bombs raining down on American cities to keep him from coming back. All that bloodshed and misery in Ukraine would not have happened if the US election had not been stolen with invalid mail-in votes. Who was taught the real lesson? Was it the people who voted for Trump, Putin, or the people of Ukraine caught in the middle of bogus play for political power? This is Biden's war, not Putin's war. Better hope it does not get out of hand. The people who caused it will go to underground shelters protected from radioactivity and your children will die.
     
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  18. Ray9

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(novel)
     
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    I approve of that. But it won't change anything. Most people vote for incumbents.
     
  20. gringo

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    how sad that some people actually believe the above

    yes ,, Putin wanted the USA to leave NATO...and no doubt if trump were still in office it would most likely have happened

    the USA being part of NATO has NOTHING to do with Putin invading Ukraine

    for Trumps entire term he trash talked about NATO...

    Putin left alone Ukraine during trumps term for 2 reasons

    1. Russia was hosting the World Cup
    and
    2. Putin thought Trump would get the USA out of NATO

    with the USA out of NATO , nothing could stop Putin from taking over all of eastern Europe

    the only western country that can wipe out Russian forces is the USA..

    had the USA left NATO Putin at this very moment would be taking not only Ukraine but others as well

    starting from the north most of these countries are in NATO

    1. Estonia
    2.Latvia
    3.Lithuania
    4. Poland
    5.Slovakia
    6. Romania
    7. Moldova

    if Ukraine were on the above list you can bet Putin would not have invaded it...

    thank heavens , for the sake of our european ancestors, trump is gone

    had trump stayed in office, western Europe would be learning to speak Russian very soon
     
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    Therein lies the real problem.
     
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    He talked about NATO members paying what they were obligated to pay by agreement. If they had all along, maybe Putin would not be so emboldened.
     
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    This is what blind, salivating, propagandized hatred can do to a mind. Biden's ineptitude and his administration's attempted use of Russia to hide its agenda of selling out America is not the problem-it was Trump all along! Well, apparently that settles that. Brilliant is it not? Notice how things get hyper-hypothetical. Notice how what actually happened is ignored.
     
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  24. gringo

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    Love of trump and hatred of Biden is a very dangerous combination
     
  25. unkotare

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    But the other way around is not?
     
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