A teacher needs to teach outside of the subject material

So we need to use trans and gay sexuality issues or some kind of racism claim in math or they won't learn anything.
Sorry, too thin

 

We're supposed to discriminate against people because you're uptight?

What in the hell are you going on about?

Just call the teacher whatever and don't get all worked up.

No of them newfangled ideas for you.

 

How are we supposed to know what "stuff" you don't like?

 

Having good lesson plans makes teaching the class easier and more predictable.

 

Depends on the social issue doesn't it can you focus in a little more, which social issues?

Political or social?
Depends on the political issue doesn't it can you focus in a little more, which political issues?

Why couch it as "as much as practical", how about teachers teach their academics and leave the raising of the child to the parent.

 

In other words. parents need to keep their mouths shut and accept whatever those that know what a lesson plan is, says to their kids?

It is far from reasonable to silence parents on what is taught in the classroom. What you are proposing is fraud. Parents paid for math instruction and using that time for any other purpose is theft. Using real world examples to teach math is not something parents object to. There is nothing wrong with a Spanish teacher discussing current events in Spanish.

 

I also know there is supposed to be no classroom instruction K-3 in gender stuff, but there is no restriction on teachers from talking about it with students.

 

Same thing no one needs to be discussing their sex life pronouns or whatever with k-8 let alone k-3

 

Parents can already come in and observe classes if they wish.

 

Yeah I don't think that would go over too well in most public schools.

 

Happens all the time. I encourage the parents/guardians of my students to stop in any time. No appointment needed.

 

Okay but I am pretty sure it is still Earl Grey tea here in 'Merica Damn Ut!!

 

Oh nos you would be in trouble if parents in my school system knew you brought Lucky Charms to class. Food in the classroom can be a hand grenade with the pin pulled out, parents are so OCD about sugar, gluten, vegan, etc. Lucky Charms is particularly problematic because the marshmallows are made from pork gelatin so you would be dosing the vegan, Jewish and Muslim kids with a big no no.

 

For good reason. Doctors are about the best there is at keeping their opinions and private life separate from the work of their hands. They don't give flying **** about the political ideology of their patients, colleagues, or employers. They don't discuss anything with their patient which is not related to the SCIENCE problem in front of them. They are not authority figures in any other sphere by that science. They don't care about your extraneous thoughts and opinions, and feel no obligation to influence you in that regard.

It's also one of the few fields where it's still completely legitimate to "misgender" you, "deadname" you, and generally not give a **** about your personal fantasies.

 

Hardly. They've been pushing that particular vanity since the late 60's, and running blindly with it since 1999.

If the 'new' idea is conservative, why would Conservatives hate it?

 

If you don't promote any religion, then no other religious group is going to be offended by their omission.

Same applies to all ideology. Keep it out altogether, and all parents are covered.

 

Which makes the rule pointless.

 

Heck, I'm *happy* when a parent comes in to observe their offspring. The kid is on his/her/(insert pronoun here) best behavior and most of the kids think the parent is an admin. I wish I had parent's in my class all the time!

 

Haven't had any complaints yet, and I've had all three kinds of kids in my classes.

 

I told you about the law.

http://laws.flrules.org/2022/22

It reads:

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."​

No classroom instruction. In short, a teacher can make sure the student is protected while in his or her care by evidencing a basic knowledge of what some people think about gender and living arrangements and what they need to know.

The law also provides:

If a concern is not resolved by the school district, a parent may:
(I) Request the Commissioner of Education to appoint a special magistrate who is a member of The Florida Bar in good standing and who has at least 5 years’ experience in administrative law. The special magistrate shall determine facts relating to the dispute over the school district procedure or practice, consider information provided by the school district, and render a recommended decision for resolution to the State Board of Education within 30 days after receipt of the request by the parent. The State Board of Education must approve or reject the recommended decision at its next regularly scheduled meeting that is more than 7 calendar days and no more than 30 days after the date the recommended decision is transmitted. The costs of the special magistrate shall be borne by the school district. The State Board of Education shall adopt rules, including forms, necessary to implement this subparagraph.
(II) Bring an action against the school district to obtain a declaratory judgment that the school district procedure or practice violates this paragraph and seek injunctive relief. A court may award damages and shall award reasonable attorney fees and court costs to a parent who receives declaratory or injunctive relief.​

I guess the governor is saying his own Department of Education is out of control and he needs tribunals and court cases with injunctive relief. Lawyers decide what should take place in the classroom.

 

Telling people about something doesn't mean we're advocating it.

 

Other parts of the bill are why to oppose it.

 

Telling it HOW, exactly? And telling WHAT?

For example you can't tell kids that homosexuality is genetic, because there's no evidence that's true. You can't discuss BLM, without discussing their opposition with exactly the same non-judgement. Etc etc etc.

 

But you can tell them that homosexuals are people and should be treated just like they would want to be treated.