the great replacement

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Yes and what happened? The country put a stop to it in the 1920's.

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    I have not seen any post 2020 charts yet, but what do you think it will show? That level of foreign born people is higher or lower?
     
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  2. Lil Mike

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    Well if Biden stated a fact what exactly do you disagree with me about?
     
  3. Pycckia

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    If there are fewer people then there are fewer customers for essential services.
     
  4. Pycckia

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    Times change. More people cause more environmental stress. I'm for negative population growth in the US.
     
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    I mean they come here and violation of our laws. How you feel about a law does not justify breaking it.

    So I'll ask you again do you think it's fair to the immigrants who respect our laws and go through the proper channels to become Americans?

    Do you think it's fair to us American citizens that they just invite their self here in great numbers?
     
  6. DaveBN

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    I think there are plenty of cases where a person is justified in breaking the law. If a homeless person is starving and the only thing between them and their next meal is shoplifting laws, I’d 100% support them doing what they have to do to get by.

    I don’t believe that our immigration laws are fair to anyone who engages with them. I don’t care if someone is “jumping the line.”

    I think it’s very fair to native citizens. Immigrants, legal or otherwise, are massive booms to to our economy and our culture.
     
  7. FatBack

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    So just how many do you think we should take into our country? Anyone who can manage to jump the border or overstay a Visa?

    How many millions do we already have here? Probably a good 20 million. Should we take in 100 million 200 million just how many?


    And annual illegal immigration does cost the taxpayers
     
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  8. DaveBN

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    Not sure what our limit is, but I don’t think we’ve reached it. Not by a long shot.

    immigrants, legal or otherwise, pay taxes on goods and services. They provide labor value and they increase demand for goods and services, which helps to grow our economy. Their presence is a net benefit.
     
  9. Pro_Line_FL

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    How do you figure "the left" does that? The only people whining about Latinos replacing "whites" are the populist right wingers. The whole argument would make zero sense if they considered them white. Project some?
     
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    Ok. So, if the number was 35% back in the day, and now its less than 1%, then is todays situation "unprecedented"?

    Like I said, it showed that in 2021 the US population growth was slowest in over 100 years.
     
  11. FatBack

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    Might I suggest you Google the annual cost of illegal immigration to the United States? And then if we can find a rock solid number on that and you can find a rock solid number on what they bring in we can do the math and tell if they are a benefit or a subtraction.

    So do we have a limit? Would you be okay one day if half of the country was illegal immigrants?
     
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    Don’t play coy with me. Make an affirmative claim and we can discuss it.

    Just out of curiosity, your number wouldn’t be in the ballpark of 155 billion USD, would it?

    Ideally they wouldn’t be considered illegal immigrants anymore.
     
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    Lets stop pretending people are starving to death in America. Have you ever had someone approach you and ask you for a meal? I havnt.
     
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    This is true but it's very much beside the point. The shooter was not motivated by illegal immigration. Conflating IM with white supremacism is the lefts way of trying to make the GOP responsible. Don't fall into the trap.
     
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    Whatever it is, the graphic shows that the Great Replacement Theory is a myth. Unless you accept that it started the day the first African slave set foot on the continent.
     
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    Didn't you get the memo. You are being replaced by a newer / younger model.
     
  17. Pro_Line_FL

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    It also proves that the percentage of foreign born has been higher in the past, which comes as no surprise since US population was growing 35% per year and it was almost entirely due to immigration.
     
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    The difference being that the overwhelming majority of foreign born people are not culturally and racially similar to the host nation. People on the southern border are quite dissimilar to the Anglo/German/French cultures that dominated the USA for centuries. The people are crossing are more akin to the natives prior to European colonization. This just covers people who are 50% European coming to this country at best. With many of these people never learning English. The remaining groups such as Africans illegally coming to the USA or in refugee programs have no similar culture. Just because they enjoy Coca Cola doesn't make them in anyway relatable. These people don't provide anything of value intellectually or physically. Their entire presence is simply to breed more of themselves with the intent of never returning back what they took in terms of economic aid. Then you have the Chinese and Indians who have been coming in droves in both USA & Canada. None of them are at all similar to Europeans. They're all corporate to the core and any value their new master says they'll blindly follow it. The overwhelming majority of the foreign born people of today are not in any shape similar to the people who founded the nation.
     
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    As immigrants, they typically were not familiar with the American culture (which was in process of being created) and vast majority did not speak English. You think Norwegian immigrants felt at home in Arizona? I seriously doubt it. The US was known as "the new world", - a true adventure and nothing like visiting Stockholm from Oslo.

    As for the current ones, they are very familiar with American culture having been raised watching American TV and listening to American music and they play baseball all day long. Heck, look at how many Latino players play in the MLB.

    Nonsense.
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Why do you think Democrats are hellbent on an open border so poor people could cross illegally then get on government services and then get them fast-tracked into citizenship with a voter card waiting?
     
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    If they are hell-bent then why haven't they opened the border and create fast-track system? Instead, they are deporting more people than ever, and have not even proposed a fast-tract system.

    Think critically my friend. Your posts indicate that you have inhaled everything Tucker has whipped up.
     
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    They are trying their darnedest to do so......................use that critical thinking to figure out why.
     
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    Their language was similar, they shared the same religion, the culture wasn't different from English/German/French to the point of being foreign, they shared a racial background, and they weren't looking for handouts or to be corporate middle managers. Comparing that to an Indian or an African you'll find that any such roots are not found. Even if they have the ability to speak English their assimilation rate is far less likely as the new culture is internationalism which is contrary to American culture.

    I don't consider that to be fundamentally American culture. Just because someone drinks Coke and watched Football doesn't make them culturally American. There is a foundational European culture that is based around trust and understanding with their neighbors. The people arriving in the USA have lived in low trust environments and they act just as they did in those low trust areas. You can see if you lived in the rural areas of the USA and compare it against the city culture(corporate culture).

    Their phenotype shows them to be primarily native admixture. They're not Spaniards crossing the border who are a bit mixed to Arabs in Iberia. They look like people seen in pictures of Aztecs and Incans.
     
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    I'd rather see you back up your claims, because it seems that you'll repeat everything you hear from questionable sources and never bother to verify anything.
     
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    No, they didn't speak a word of English

    So do the Latinos

    So do the current ones.

    The rumor was that America was the land of milk and honey and that the government was giving out land, which was true of course.

    About 1% of immigrants 100 yrs ago were skilled, while now the percentage is about 30%. Also, even if they are not fluent in English, they speak a heck of a lot more than an uneducated Swede 100 yrs ago

    Well, you have proven that you have bought into the replacement theory lines, so can agree to disagree,
     
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