14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

Well I guess YOU care. You brought it up.

You don’t care now because you bought a LIE. Instead of dealing with the facts you now “don’t care”.

Of course armed resource officers aren’t effective if they allow the gunman into the school and then wait 30 minutes to an hour to take out the shooter.

Any more deflections from your gullibility you’d like to add?

 

I dont send prayers as I am not religious. I have offered a solution that actually makes sense, and is attainable. Meanwhile the left is stuck on political posturing, standing on the graves of the fallen, calling for something they know they will never have, in their desperate pursuit of power. NOt all of them ofcoursee, but most.

 

By now police know that armed criminals tend to be very good at shooting and killing police officers. Their fear and trepidation is understandable if not laudable.

Hence the importance of the 2nd amendment's protection of the right to self defense.

 

I said massacres, not mass shootings. 25 years before Port Arthur there were 22 massacres. 25 since there have been 36 massacres. The weapon used is irrelevant. Murder is murder.

 

Go see which states receive the most federal grants to make ends meet.

Of the top 10, 8 are red.

Of the 10 states that receive the least, 7 are blue.

But that's probably a coincidence.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

 

If you want to get into that, let's talk about the homicide rate in Australia... which is strangely 5 times lower than in the US.

Are you starting to understand or do you still need statistics?

 

Private security is your solution. School systems can't pay teachers but you think they can pay for private security. How sad that we have come to this point and that these are the "solutions" that are thought to be "sensible". We need armed security for our children in school. That doesn't even happen in Afghanistan but you think it's "sensible". Just how deep in the sand IS your head.

 

No that's you. Gun free zones where the only people that have guns kill kids with them is the only place there they are getting mass murdered.

How many kids have to die before you take responsibility for not protecting them?

Second amendment protects them it's only places where it's suspended that they get murdered.

Apparently for you it's at least 19 more.

 

All you can do to feel like you have anything on me is mock me for spelling errors.

How sad for you.

 

A foundational document is not invalid merely because it is old, Pixie. Indeed, there are large tracts of the Code of Hummurabi, Roman Law, English Common Law, and others that date from many hundreds of years ago that are the precursors of constitutions found throughout most of the civilized world today.

Now, rather than preach about the legitimacy of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States (which we all know by heart), I'll simply point out that our Constitution can be amended at any time that a majority of American citizens WANT it to be amended! Even a casual examination shows that it has been amended already no less than twenty-seven times! If enough of our citizens want to amend the Constitution, it will be done....

Now... all of that notwithstanding, it has so far been revealed that mass-murderer, Salvador Ramos, had NO police record, NO record of mental health problems, and NOTHING in his personal 'bio' that would have excluded him from purchasing and legally possessing firearms in the State of Texas.

Radical Democrats love to raise righteous hell about how we should "do something" about mass-murders (only WHEN they're accomplished by the use of firearms, of course), but exactly what would have prevented Ramos from carrying out these murders at the school? "Police checks"? A "firearms registry"? A review of "red flag criteria"? The honest answer, straight to the facts is: NOTHING! And even if these radical Democrats got their way and the 2nd Amendment were thrown out, all firearms were seized by the government, and self-defense in the United States was forever eliminated -- criminals and the mentally 'disturbed' would still buy readily available weapons on the black-market and commit mass-murders anyway!

Afterthought: One of the very first things that any tyrannical, autocratic government does after it takes control of a country is to FORBID its citizens to possess weapons of self-defense! Nazi Germany under Hitler is an excellent example....

 

I was wondering when you'd answer that, what about the statistics of crime here in the US? https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

You seem uninterested in this, while somehow being interested in stats.

 

you tried and failed.

Translation you need an echo chamber and anybody that doesn't tell you what you want to hear causes you to melt down.

Well you keep jumping around and making things up to save face.

Fight implies that you had a chance. All you have is a fake amendment and attacking people when they point that out.

That's because ask you can do is lie about the Constitution and cry because I you were called out.

wasting time is all you've done. Lie to yourself if you must.

It's the ultimate in victory when you retreat to your echo chamber.

Run away from the truth any way you can. It'll always find you.

 

You aren't making a point here. He would have had access to guns even if they were illegal have you ever heard of methamphetamine did you know thats illegal yet many people still do it

If it's illegal how on Earth is it possible to simply break the law? It's almost like laws don't control criminals. It's almost like there needs to be some sort of law enforcement to enforce it.

I think you're blaming guns and gun owners because you don't want to blame the school for just letting these kids get murdered.

 

What colour was the tactical vest? It's important, right?

 

One person being murdered is not a massacre

 

Not true.

It doesn't happen in Canada, Australia, Norway, Germany, France....

In the meantime, all the crazies in America can get the guns they need, legally, to carry out their massacre.

You're defending a system that allows American madmen to be the best armed in the world.

Are you proud of that?

 

They were definitely not prepared in Texas, where they instead threw Beto O'Rourke out for pointing out to the governor that this was predictable and he had done NOTHING to prevent it. Not a word about what will be done to prevent the NEXT instance either. Because this WILL happen again. Maybe a school, maybe a supermarket, maybe a concert... who knows... But it WILL happen again and again given that the ONLY solution they propose is thoughts and prayers.

 

You seem to worried about crime in other places, but have no answer for these crimes https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43 is there a reason for this?

 

Just tell us what law will prevent this from ever happening again. Here, use this exact space;
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moronic. He was already banned from having a gun on the school grounds. If bans worked why did they fail?

and do you believe that's because bans magically work there? I'm just not that naive.

So if they got them illegally and killed people people would be less dead explain?

Why is it every time I ask this question of you you run away from it?

no you are. The only reason this happened is because of a gun ban.

I'm going to point out another fact you people constantly constantly run away from because you are so incredibly dishonest.

99% of these shootings happen in a place with gun control it's like they're picked for that reason.

Am I proud that gun control fails no I just wish you people would get the clue.

It's like you're completely allergic to knowledge.

Maybe it's because you so desperately one of the leave your stupid little rules keep you safe. Maybe you're just comforted by that illusion.

 

He doesn't give a **** about crime. It's just an appeal to emotion to argue and illogical position.

The reality is in the case of the shooting the school failed to protect children. It failed because it's hamstrung by idiotic laws.

Instead of correcting the stupidity some people just want to double and triple down on it.

 

Any real solution will have to start with changes to the 2A, and yes, that's a constitutional process, but anything less is just window dressing.

 

The definition of a massacre is "multiple, firearm, homicide incidents, involving 4 or more victims at one or more locations close to one another."

1killed, 3 injured = a massacre. That's the definition y'all use, so that's the standard I'm going to apply.

 

100 million disarmed people killed last century

https://reason.com/2013/03/13/communism-killed-94m-in-20th-century/

 

Australia's crime rate has gone up since the gun ban, while ours went down during the same period.