American Gun Sales Collapse in 47 States

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I assume that you mean stop the funding of studying gun related violence since the most recent incident of government funding of gun violence was "Operation Fast and Furious". Still, the statistics thrown around today are taken from "studies" done by groups funded by Bloomberg's $ Billions and hardly accurate.

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I wouldn't call Russia, South Africa, Argentina etc. "grim third world narco nations." At any rate, Russia, South Africa, Argentina etc are no more dissimilar to America than the "developed" countries frequently compared to America.
Additionally, not all "developed" countries use the same criteria in categorizing gun homicides. For example, England only counts a death by gun a "gun homicide" if there is a conviction so, of course, their gun homicide rate is going to appear lower.

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Are they really or are they simply receiving more news coverage? I don't know.
What I do know is that, historically, attempts to alter human behavior by banning inanimate objects not only fail but they frequently create more violence and just another Black Market as in Prohibition.

I honestly think that, firstly, a determined killer or mass killer will find a way to kill a large number of people and additional gun control laws will have no effect.
For example, a determined killer in NYC couldn't get a gun to kill his ex-girlfriend so he simply fabricated a crude WMD using only one dollar's worth of gasoline.(1)
This crude WMD managed to kill 87 people which is more deaths per incident than any AR-15, AK-47 or other type of "assault weapon".
So, if and when guns become harder to get, determined killers will simply turn to using crude WMDs like Anthrax, home-made bombs, Molotov Cocktails and Bio/Chem WMDs.

After all, in those 60+ countries with draconian gun laws the killers are using something to kill each other at a higher rate than in the US.

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(1) "Happy Land fire"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

EXCERPT "González went to an Amoco gas station, then returned to the establishment with a plastic container with $1 worth of gasoline.[2][4] He spread the fuel at the base of a staircase, the only access into the club, and then ignited the gasoline.[5]

Eighty-seven people died in the resulting fire."CONTINUED

 

Is that an answer? I’m asking you a specific question.

 

I recognize now who I am talking to.

Have a good day.

 

NC, for the win.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ools-ar-15-rifles-wake-uvalde-shoot-rcna41960

 

well I certainly don't want their crappy anti gun attitudes and nanny state cravings to migrate to our nation

 

many lefties find it insulting to exhibit the attitude that mother government cannot provide for your total and complete safety 24/7

 

People should seek therapy rather than kill themselves. Unlike some conservatives, I think life is precious even when it is not in someone else's body.

 

unlike many lefties, I think freedom is extremely important. I am not going to support disarming someone because I pretend to want to prevent them from committing suicide

 

Locked in a safe... one gun. Pathetic. Every child should be given a 9mm as per their school requirements, plus a helmet and vest.

 

Sorry, wots the question again?

 

It's sad if America compares itself to Russia or South Africa.
I doubt that 120,000 Americans are going to casualties of arsonists every year. A gun, particularly a hand gun, is designed to be concealed, easy to carry, quick and lethal to use on humans. That's sinister.
Ban ALL guns and people will resort to knives - but I can assure you, there won't be 120,000 stabbings per year. Imagine, drive by stabbings. Suicides by stabbings. Accidental stabbings.

 

AND every five year should have a chance to live.

 

LOL what's the point in that!

 

So because you disagree with their laws, that translates to all Australians have "crappy anti gun attitudes" and should stay out of the US. Sigh.......

Yea, what the heck. If your ever kid gets depressed, make sure he/she has on gun on the night-stand. Friidum demands it.

 

I don't really care if someone else commits suicide, but I am concerned if he wants to take me with him.

 

On e again why can’t a woman at least have a real chance against being raped or murdered by a man?

 

no it’s not their right, that’s just fatuous.

 

children don’t get to carry guns, that’s for adults. Why make such an obviously silly suggestion?

 

that's a fair concern but realistically, there is no law that is going to deter such an action. only someone being able to stop the intended murderer-suicide

 

the level of idiocy from the anti gun side gets worse daily. My argument is anti gun foreigners have nothing worthwhile to say about our rights in this country. The rest of your sick comment is consistent with what I see from many anti gun posters

 

I'm pro-gun so your comment is not making any sense. You said what you said, and I gave you the obvious response. Sorry if it offends you when the weakness of your arguments is exposed.

You said you would not disarm anyone contemplating suicide, so I am asking if you would not disarm your own child in that situation, because people tend to make such comments but they won't do as they say when it hits home.

 

left wing gun owners may be "pro gun" in terms of wanting to own them, but they are generally anti gun rights advocates because they understand that gun rights advocates vote against the people leftwing gun owners want in office. Nothing is more funny than watching those who vote for Democrats try to do that dance. I don't support disarming someone without substantive and procedural due process rights being guaranteed.

 

It's just as invalid to compare America to so called "developed" countries that are in no way like the US(1) and have affordable and accessible mental health care.

Next, your figure of 120,000 gun related homicides is over six times the actual number of 19,384 (2) and since people have figured out innumerable ways to kill each other since the beginning of time, even banning private gun ownership would be as disastrous of a failure as Prohibition by creating an additional Black Market

Additionally, if all guns were banned, knives would not be the only weapons people would use to kill each other. The point of my mentioning the Happy Land mass murder was to illustrate that determined killers will resort to crude but deadlier WMDs such as bombs, Anthrax and other Bio/Chem concoctions, Molotov Cocktails and an endless list of deadly items and substances that kill more people than handguns and/or "assault weapons"

For example, the deadliest school mass killing was not done with any type of firearm. It was done with a simple home made bomb. (3)

Therefore, it is at least my opinion that disarming law abiding citizens and eviscerating the 2nd Amendment will increase America's homicide rate as more lethal WMDs replace guns as the weapons of choice by determined mass killers.

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(1) "The Mistake of Only Comparing US Murder Rates to "Developed" Countries"
https://mises.org/wire/mistake-only-...oped-countries

EXCERPT " Note, however, that these comparisons always employ a carefully selected list of countries, most of which are very unlike the United States. They are countries that were settled long ago by the dominant ethnic group, they are ethnically non-diverse today, they are frequently very small countries (such as Norway, with a population of 5 million) with very locally based democracies (again, unlike the US with an immense population and far fewer representatives in government per voter). Politically, historically, and demographically, the US has little in common with Europe or Japan.

The US has the highest murder rate in the "developed world" — presumably because of its lax guns laws —we are told again and again.

Few people who repeat this mantra have any standard in their heads of what exactly is the "developed" world. They just repeat the phrase because they have learned to do so."CONTINUED


(2) "Assault or Homicide"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
Firearm homicides

• Number of deaths: 19,384

(3) "The 1927 Bombing That Remains America’s Deadliest School Massacre"

"Ninety years ago, a school in Bath, Michigan was rigged with explosives in a brutal act that stunned the town"

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...chool-massacre-180963355/#KSipwm4IUrIbB9uc.99

EXCERPTS "In the end 44 people died, 38 of them students. It wasn’t the first bombing in the country’s history—at least eight were killed during the Haymarket Square rally in Chicago in 1886, and 30 when a bomb exploded in Manhattan in 1920. But none had been so deadly as this, or affected so many children."CONTINUED

 

Glad you have a complete and total understanding of every person's mental/emotional/physical condition that you think therapy is the answer to it all. *sarcasm included*

Since you have such wonderful comprehensive skills, tell us, how many people who committed suicide did so while receiving therapy? How many committed suicide from physical ailments?

Unlike some Liberals, apparently, I understand that no one but the person involved has a right to make the decision about their own lives, but themselves. Unlike some Liberals, apparently, what I believe is not something I have the right to force upon other people.

 

I think the market is saturated. Bass Pro here in California still sells “assault rifles” by the pallet.
As soon as some D/A politician threatens to outlaw them again, sales pick up. It is the way Americans are.
BTW, anti gunners always include suicides as “firearm deaths”, let aside from being messy, failures are rare, so there is that. Suicide by other means is ignored.

Also fires had an down effect on deer season, but in a couple of years, the woods will be thick and nutritious and bucks should be coming into three and four point, quicker than usual.