Why are cons ALWAYS on the wrong side of history?

You're beating the horse that left the barn. The issue isn't Trump- it's that the message Trump had, to make the nation great again- is offensive to people who seem to find success and thriving of the people overall offensive. WHY would that offend anybody? At least, anybody who loved their country and it's people?

It's not the messenger you hate- it's the message.

 

With 70% of ALL Americans thinking the country is headed in the wrong direction, Democrats are running on a campaign of keeping on going in the same direction.

 

Rule there is no right or wrong side of history. History is recitation of facts concerning the past. One can make various deductions based those facts.
Deduction#1 if Hitler and mussolini are far right, then so must be the Modern Democratic Party beginning with FDR as there is almost no policy difference between them and Mussolini policy wise right down to the iron clad faith in huge public private partnerships and distaste for small business people.

 

So, are you voting Republican this November?

That is the point, is it not? Maybe you don't like the Republican leader, but maybe you will vote for what he stands for, including his attacks on American democracy for which the Republican Party you maybe are voting for turns a blind eye.

And so do you. Maybe.

Sandy

 

Of course, though you do understand that for most offices in Arkansas Republican is the only serious option.

 

So high taxes in Cali makes my state bad huh? Weird Cali has the most millionaires AND billionaires than ANY state.

You forget until Brown and now Newsome, Cali had a GOP Guv for 20 of 24 years, Democratically run, they like Ronnie, Dubya and Diaper Donnie just put EVERYTHING on the credit card? lol




Texas roasted for paying more in taxes than California: ‘The Joke is On You’

For most outside the top one percent of earners, taxes are lower in California than in Texas
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-california-higher-taxes-policy-b2161227.html

 

So no you can't refute ANYTHING

Why is the GOP trying this:


Senate Republican bill would repeal Democratic drug pricing law

Senate Republicans on Friday introduced a bill that would roll back the drug pricing reforms included in the sweeping Inflation Reduction Act, including the measures allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices and capping annual drug expenses for many seniors.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...lican-bill-would-repeal-dem-drug-pricing-law/

Now I know they are arguing "price caps" are the problem, but the GOP who passed the Medicare prescription drug program in 2003, in the middle of the night, to "win" 2004 election (Part D expansion), without a single penny of new revenues. In 2022 Medicare Part D, the GOP's giveaway to the Pharma industry will cost tax payers $110 BILLION out of the general fund. And in 2003 they specifically outlawed Gov't NEGOTIATING DRUG PRICES WITH PART D LIKE THEY DO WITH OTHER PLANS

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GAO: Medicare Part D Pays Twice As Much for Same Drugs as VA System

Department of Veterans Affairs Paid About Half as Much as Medicare Part D for Selected Drugs in 2017
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-111


GOP ALWAYS FOR BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIGGER CORPORATE PROFITS!

 

Senate Republican bill would repeal Democratic drug pricing law

Senate Republicans on Friday introduced a bill that would roll back the drug pricing reforms included in the sweeping Inflation Reduction Act, including the measures allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices and capping annual drug expenses for many seniors.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...lican-bill-would-repeal-dem-drug-pricing-law/

Now I know they are arguing "price caps" are the problem, but the GOP who passed the Medicare prescription drug program in 2003, in the middle of the night, to "win" 2004 election (Part D expansion), without a single penny of new revenues. In 2022 Medicare Part D, the GOP's giveaway to the Pharma industry will cost tax payers $110 BILLION out of the general fund. And in 2003 they specifically outlawed Gov't NEGOTIATING DRUG PRICES WITH PART D LIKE THEY DO WITH OTHER PLANS

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GAO: Medicare Part D Pays Twice As Much for Same Drugs as VA System

Department of Veterans Affairs Paid About Half as Much as Medicare Part D for Selected Drugs in 2017
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-111


GOP ALWAYS FOR BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIGGER CORPORATE PROFITS!

 

So you want Gov't that never was? No thanks, that limited Gov't BS with the Articlesof CONfederation was bas enough

 

When did the US become "not great". Which nation would you like to copy? I'm all in if we decide to follow most of the rest of the developed world with UHC and where the richest actually pay substantially higher tax rates than the middle classes

Without false premises, distortions and lies what would the right wing ever have though


Using racists BS like Diaper Donnie did, or increasing taxes on the bottom 90% which Diaper Donnie did, or hurting US farmers as Diaper Donnie did. No thank you

 

lmaorog

At least you right wingers are good for a laugh, if not for a history lesson

 

The top 1% pays 40% of all income tax. Not fair??? The top 10% combined pay 70% of all income taxes. That group are the only ones whose share of taxes exceeds their share of wealth. The bottom 50% pay 3% of all taxes. Either you can't add, or you are a damn poor judge of distance when you think the wealthy aren't paying.
Those numbers come from the IRS.

We used to be the nation other nations wanted to copy- to emulate what worked for us. Wewere recognized as the world leader; have been the most desired immigration destination for 150 years, because we had opportunity. Now, we have immigration because we have no enforcement and give stuff away.

Can't see the difference?? You really need to adjust your position to get some sunshine on your head. You're not only looking foolish, but ingenuous to me.

 

Yes as the share of income the richest has TAKEN has BALLOONED from 6%-10% of the pie to about 21% today, the share of federal income taxes, which are 25% of ALL Gov't revenues, has sharply been reduced on that SHARE OF INCOME


3 PEOPLE IN THE US, HAVE MORE WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM 60% OF US






What do we "give away" How? What's YOUR plan to help on immigration? You know where Biden has had RECORD ASYLUM SEEKERS who come here and also turned back RECORD NUMBERS OF UNDOCUMENTED

"By the end of June, border officials apprehended people more than 1.74 million times, breaking the record from the total number during the government’s 2021 fiscal year of more than 1.73 million, which at the time was the highest number of illegal crossings recorded since at least 1960. The government’s fiscal year ends Sept. 30, and at this rate, the total number of crossings for the year is likely to exceed two million.


Officials estimate about 18 percent of the people apprehended in July were repeat crossers, a pattern some blame on the continued enforcement of a pandemic-driven public health order, which gives border officials the authority to turn migrants away at the border but does not penalize those who cross illegally again.

The high number of crossings comes as the United Nations says there are more displaced people around the world than ever before. Migrants are going to great lengths to get to the United States, putting their lives in the hands of smugglers. They are fleeing violence, poverty and life under authoritarian governments in their own countries. Many are looking to the United States for economic opportunities after many jobs were lost during the pandemic.

While about half of the migrants arrested on the southwestern border have been turned away under the public health order, the administration has released hundreds of thousands of migrants into the country to face removal proceedings. These immigrants are given temporary permission to stay because the government cannot immediately remove them — sometimes because the United States lacks diplomatic relations with the countries they came from, and thus cannot repatriate them, or there is not enough space to detain them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/15/us/politics/immigration-border.html

NO PAYWALL LINK
https://archive.ph/GzcIN


I SAY $5,000 A DAY FINES FOR EVERY SINGLE UNDOCUMENTED EMPLOYEE THE ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS HIRE!!

You on board and going to push your GOP reps for that? OR like these guys


Senate Republican bill would repeal Democratic drug pricing law

Senate Republicans on Friday introduced a bill that would roll back the drug pricing reforms included in the sweeping Inflation Reduction Act, including the measures allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices and capping annual drug expenses for many seniors.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...lican-bill-would-repeal-dem-drug-pricing-law/

You know when they claim "caps" don't work since the GOP gave big pharma the gift in 2003 the Medicare part D program that of course, they didn't give a penny of new funding, AND RESTRICTED THE GOV'T'S ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE! . It cost US $110 billion this year out of general revenues



Prescription Drugsepartment of Veterans Affairs Paid About Half as Much as Medicare Part D for Selected Drugs in 2017
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-111

 

Bunch of moochers in the US huh? HALF OF THE US DIDN'T MAKE MORE THAN
$44,269 IN INCOME IN 2021. That's MAX income for half of US FAMILIES
https://taxfoundation.org/publications/latest-federal-income-tax-data/



Feb 7, 2019 — The poorest fifth of U.S. households pay an estimated 11.4 percent of their income in state and local taxes, on average,

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state...x-rates-at-the-top-a-sensible-way-to-fund-key



The Rich Really Do Pay Lower Taxes Than You

For the first time on record, the 400 wealthiest Americans last year paid a lower total tax rate — spanning federal, state and local taxes — than any other income group, according to newly released data.


That’s a sharp change from the 1950s and 1960s, when the wealthy paid vastly higher tax rates than the middle class or poor.

Since then, taxes that hit the wealthiest the hardest — like the estate tax and corporate tax — have plummeted, while tax avoidance has become more common.

President Trump’s 2017 tax cut, which was largely a handout to the rich, plays a role, too. It helped push the tax rate on the 400 wealthiest households below the rates for almost everyone else.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/income-tax-rate-wealthy.html

NO PAYWALL LINK
https://archive.ph/Ohd3R



Yes, Poor Retirees Pay Higher Effective Marginal Tax Rates Than The Rich. What Can We Do About It?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer...rich-what-can-we-do-about-it/?sh=30d1529c3b1d

Many wealthy Americans escape big income tax bills. Here’s how they do it
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/10/how...-buffett-musk-pay-little-in-income-taxes.html



JUST FOR FUN

Texas roasted for paying more in taxes than California: ‘The Joke is On You’
For most outside the top one percent of earners, taxes are lower in California than in Texas
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-california-higher-taxes-policy-b2161227.html

 

President Trump is being investigated every single day because your corrupt politicians are terrified he'll get into office again.

The moral of the story is President Trump's 4 years were a nightmare to corrupt career politicans and a blessing to the taxpaying citizens.

 

Sure


Trump’s swampiest pardons, ranked

1. Paul Manafort: The former Trump campaign chairman’s extensive crimes are one thing; Trump’s apparent motivation for pardoning him is another. Trump regularly credited Manafort with not cooperating with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Manafort did reach a cooperation agreement at one point, but then he voided it by lying repeatedly — with his lies pertaining specifically to a central connection between the Trump campaign and Russian interests. A Senate (GOP LEAD) report recently suggested Manafort’s lies about this remained inexplicable, given they opened him up to more jail time, and said they resulted in that central tie remaining largely obscured. Trump’s pardon, though, suggests Manafort played his cards right by keeping his mouth shut, which is quite the precedent to set.

It’s also worth noting the one high-profile member of Trump’s campaign who didn’t get a pardon: Manafort’s business partner and Trump’s deputy campaign manager, Rick Gates. Gates cooperated with Mueller.

2. Roger Stone: Nobody on this list has had a longer and closer relationship with Trump. Stone has served as something of an informal political adviser for Trump for decades. He got 40 months in prison for obstructing the Russia investigation, with the judge in his case saying, “He was prosecuted for covering up for the president.” As with Manafort, he’s seemingly been rewarded for that.


3. Michael Flynn: Trump’s former White House national security adviser pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about his contacts with Russia’s ambassador during the 2016-2017 transition. Since then, he has tried to get that conviction thrown out, with extraordinary assistance from Trump’s Justice Department. The judge in his trial said Flynn had arguably “sold your country out” and even asked prosecutors whether they considered treason charges.


4. Charles Kushner: While Trump didn’t attempt to pardon himself or members of his immediate family, he did pardon a member of his extended family. Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner’s father, Charles, was convicted of tax evasion, witness tampering and illegal campaign contributions. That witness tampering charge was especially ugly, given it involved hiring a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law and videotaping it for leverage. Former Trump adviser Chris Christie, who prosecuted the case as U.S. attorney, said Kushner took part in “one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes that I prosecuted.”


5. Elliott Broidy: Broidy was a top GOP donor to Trump’s 2016 campaign and later served as a top finance official at the Republican National Committee. His crime: violating foreign lobbying laws for his work on behalf of Chinese and Malaysian interests. Whom he lobbied: the Trump administration. Trump has now forgiven that, shortly after Broidy’s guilty plea.

6. Stephen K. Bannon: Unlike others on this list, Bannon hasn’t been convicted. The 2016 Trump campaign CEO and former top White House adviser was only recently charged. But his alleged crime involves defrauding donors who supported the private construction of a border wall. Trump is effectively pardoning someone accused of defrauding people who supported one of his biggest 2016 campaign promises. Bannon’s pardon is also notable given that he fell out of favor with Trump when he left the White House, with Trump labeling him “Sloppy Steve.” Trump even recently distanced himself from Bannon’s border wall efforts, but has now pardoned him anyway.

7. Other Russia probe figures: Manafort, Stone and Flynn are hardly the only ones Trump has pardoned in connection with the Russia investigation. Both George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, and Alex van der Zwaan pleaded guilty to making false statements. Trump has routinely used these pardons to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the investigation that so dogged his early presidency. Trump also pardoned conservative activist Paul Erickson, though the connection to the Russia probe is strangely tenuous. Erickson was romantically linked to a Russian agent, Maria Butina. Trump pardoned him because, according to the White House, his conviction “was based off the Russian collusion hoax,” even though Erickson’s crimes didn’t involve Russia but were instead investment crimes.


8. Seven GOP congressmen: Since Trump took office, two incumbent Republican congressmen have been convicted of crimes, Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) and Duncan D. Hunter (R-Calif.), as has a former congressman, Steve Stockman (R-Tex.). Trump pardoned all three of them. Trump also pardoned four former Republican congressmen convicted before his presidency: Rick Renzi (R-Ariz.), Robin Hayes (R-N.C.), Mark Siljander (R-Mich.) and Randall “Duke” Cunningham (R-Calif.). Their crimes vary in severity. Hayes, for instance, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI during a corruption investigation, while Renzi and Cunningham were found guilty of extensive fraud and wrongdoing. But according to GovTrack’s Legislator Misconduct Database, Trump has now pardoned a majority of Republican congressmen convicted of felonies in the 21st century.

9. The corrupt Democrats: While Trump’s pardons of politicians are overwhelmingly for members of his own party, Trump has seen fit to pardon some Democrats. Most notable among them: former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich and former Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. Both were found guilty of extensive corruption, including Blagojevich’s effort to sell a Senate appointment and Kilpatrick’s 24 criminal counts — a tally that earned him a stunning 28-year sentence. Blagojevich, notably, was a guest on “The Apprentice” and has recently emerged as a Trump backer.


10. Figures in the Jack Abramoff scandal: Cunningham’s convictions were big news at the time, and they joined with another case in the 2000s to cast a harsh spotlight on Washington lobbying practices: the Jack Abramoff scandal. Trump previously pardoned David Safavian, who obstructed the investigation, and overnight he also pardoned a member of Abramoff’s lobbying team, Todd Boulanger, who pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge. Trump did not pardon many other figures involved, including Abramoff himself or former congressman Bob Ney (R-Ohio). But a common thread running through Trump’s grants of clemency has been a disregard for convictions of political figures and a laissez-faire attitude toward public corruption.


11. “The Blackwater Four” and others convicted in killings: Trump has pardoned a number of people convicted of murder or manslaughter. Most notable among them are members of the U.S. military whose causes became popular on Fox News and in other conservative media, and the so-called “Blackwater Four,” who were convicted in connection with a massacre of 14 civilians in an unprovoked attack in Iraq. There are differing views of the legitimacy of the Blackwater pardons, but the organization was founded by Erik Prince, a Trump ally and brother of Trump’s now-former education secretary Betsy DeVos. The personal connection between Trump’s pardons and the affiliations of those around him has been a significant feature of Trump’s grants of clemency.

12. A Fox host’s former spouse: Trump’s pardons have regularly been geared toward the Fox News crowd, but perhaps his final one drives it home. He pardoned the ex-husband of Fox News host Jeanine Pirro, Albert Pirro Jr., who was convicted of conspiracy and tax evasion. The Fox host has been among Trump’s most vocal and unquestioning allies, even by the standards of her own network.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/20/trumps-swampiest-pardons-ranked/

 

Wow, pretty scary you answered my post with that so quickly.

You sir are a copy and paste expert.

 

So you agree, like Offshorring US jobs increasing under Diaper Donnie, blowing up the deficits under Diaper Donnie, seperating families at the border under Diaper Donnie that despite his claims to "drain the swamp", Diaper Donnie just decided to pardon them and put them back in the swamp

 

Man you have a way of expressing your beliefs.

 

The interpretation is obvious. He doesn't like conservative policies. He should be happy because he isn't getting any of them currently.

 

The truth is that some manufacturing came back to the U.S. thanks to Diaper Donnie. Actually government doesn't "offshore" jobs. Business does that. His deficits pale in comparison to what we have experienced with the current administration. We went from 2% inflation to 9%. The people he pardoned weren't the swamp. The swamp is still there in all its glory. He tried to drain it and failed.

 

AND NO MATTER WHAT THE WEALTHY PAY- YOU WILL ALWAYS FEEL THAT ANYONE WHO HAS MORE THAN YOU HAS STOLEN FROM YOU...

But anyone who works harder and smarter is just supposed to do that, because- those who don't are entitled to an equal share, and somebody has got to provide it......

This falls under the heading of NONSENSE thinking, which I'm going to start calling out every time it's thrown on the table.
I've yet to see a post from you that is realistic and balanced. Not one.

 

Yes because ALL policy started under Ronnnie, Dubya and Diaper Donnie ended they day they left office right? Zero lingering effects like increased US shortfall in revenues, costs for unfunded wars started with false premises, no cost of $110 billion in 2022 because Dubya/GOP pushed through in the middle of the night, Medicare Part D without a penny in funding

 

Sorry I forgot the "job creators" 1940-1980 didn't work as hard and weren't as smart of those since Ronnie Reagan's "trickle dowb"


They didn't get to benefit from the change in 1982 of allowing stock options, which was previously not allowed, which greatky increased inequality and financialized the US back to where it was before the first Repugnant depression of 1929

Or Ronnie's decision that monopolies don't matter, as long as consumers got cheap goods.

 

So you can't refute anything, you just want to stomp your feet?