TN: Tyre Nichols was 'defenseless' during his 'savage' beating by police, attorneys say

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  1. Izzy

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    Whatsherface gave up on her "gang" conspiracy?
    DeSantis-gitmo post missing.
    City not police hire officers?

    This on police hiring.



    'Tyre Nichols death: 2 Memphis officers involved in stop joined department after it lowered hiring standards'

    Police should 'not rush to hire officers that might not be qualified,' one expert says

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    https://www.foxnews.com/us/tyre-nic...-department-after-it-lowered-hiring-standards
     
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    You are ignoring Nichols part in it. They didn't pull him out of a prayer group and beat him to death. He was pulled to the roadside for a traffic infraction. Everything Nichols did from there on out was a violation of law. And it was that repeated obstinance that drew the Officers to use more and more force. Yes they went overboard. They are human. They are also hired and authorized to subdue and arrest law breakers. That's what they set out to do. Nichols never obeyed them. Heck right from the beginning, he wouldn't even step out of his car, no matter how many times the Officers told him to. They had to physically drag him out of his car. What normal law abiding citizen acts that way, ignoring the Police and forcing them to use force? Then he wouldn't lay down on the ground after many commands. Then he wouldn't let them put cuffs on him. Then he took off running. Who does that? Then when the Police caught up to him on foot, he continued to ignore their commands and struggled with the Police. He is as culpable for his death as the Police, imo. To me it is along the lines of negligent homicide. But with the war on America, it wouldn't surprise me if they are found guilty of murder.
     
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    Did they lower the requirements in order to include more Black officers?
     
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    Did he receive preferential treatment because he's white:
     
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    Wow.
    Just
    Wow
     
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    WHat a load of crap.
    You need to learn the meaning of the word proportional and how it applies to cops.
    There is no public hanging, just the process of seeking justice. They will be tried and judged by a jury of their peers and upon conviction they will serve their sentences. Those animals deserve everything that is coming their way, because only animals behave like they did. Worse than the most violent sociopathic criminals, because criminals seek to profit from their crimes, in most cases, these animals did not have a profit motive, only domination of an unarmed man.
     
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    1) We actually have zero evidence, of any traffic violations, by Nichols-- except what some of these criminally indicted cops say (for whatever their word is worth, to you; but, FYI, that shouldn't be very much). The city police say that there is a lack of evidence to show, and they cannot prove, that there ever was a traffic offense. These psychos may have just picked him out, at random.

    2) Your understanding of law, is highly flawed. Even if someone were not being unreservedly cooperative, that does not justify closed fist punches, from a group of 5 cops, in order to subdue a 145 lb. non violent man, through assault. There is absolutely no basis for thinking these police could not have handcuffed the suspect, without beating him up, had they actually wanted to.

    3) These cops were all part of the violent crime, "Scorpion" unit. Traffic enforcement, is not even part of their mandate-- that is not what they were hired or assigned to do; not the reason for their being out on the street.

    To all appearances, what they had "set out to do," was to savagely beat a citizen, perhaps even unto death.


    * Nichols is "human." In your perverse interpretation, being human is a valid excuse for cops to beat a person to the edge of death, but it is not a valid excuse for a civilian, to not immediately & perfectly comply with every police request. Is the hypocrisy of that view, not evident to you?

    4) No authorities are on record, calling Nichols' initial actions, "resisting arrest." He was clearly, not being violent, and in fact, was generally cooperative. He was told to get on the ground, and he got on the ground; then the cop gave the more specific instruction, for Nichols, who was on his knees, to put his whole body, on the ground. This is the cop's fault, not Nichols'. Nichols then put his entire body on the ground, on his side, while cops continued with their threatening yelling and accosting, as if he were not complying. The officer had to further clarify, that he wanted Nichols face down, with his stomach on the ground: once again, only the cop is to blame for not saying that, in the first place. Note also, that another cop was holding Nichols' arms, behind him, so was essentially in control, of Nichols' movements (perhaps even preventing his complying, as the other was ordering).

    They actually screamed at him, I just heard, 71 different orders, in 13 minutes, often simultaneously, and sometimes contradicting one another. For example, one cop commanded him to show his hands, while another officer held Nichols' hands, behind his back.


    A person with a good reason, to believe that the police meant him harm, is who does that. There was no justifiable reason, those 5 could not have handcuffed Nichols, before the point of his fleeing. Nichols weighed 145 lbs, and was not violently resisting, but was trying to cooperate. Watch the video again (as many times as it takes), to see that these cops seemed to be trying to provoke some response, to justify their becoming even more violent with their suspect. Nothing Nichols did, prior to fleeing for his safety-- which, once again, is only a natural, "human" reaction, to what the cops were doing-- warranted the police reaction, which led to his death (& which you merely consider their going "overboard"). Did you also see the later clips, of cops kicking him (including in the head, I hear), while Nichols was on the ground & in the control of two other cops? How about the clip in which they needed to physically lift him, for others to punch & beat him with clubs? Anyone who goes that overboard, is being a criminal, and has no business being part of a city police force.
     
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    I bet you could get hired to be a cop on that force and think how that would elevate their standards when you showed then how a real man does it.
     
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    Real men do not beat defenseless people to death, no matter how much you, or others aspiring to be real men, enjoy such spectacles.
     
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    Tyre Nichols wasn't "beaten to death". You people really, seriously need to learn what phraseology means...lol

    Besides that, it depends on the person. I bet you would cheer it on if a defenseless "white supremacist" was beaten death; actually beaten to death, unlike Nichols.
     
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    No, you need to make fewer moronic excuses for sociopathic actions.
    Do not make stupid bets, it can make you a loser.
     
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    I've said that for years: all the Leftists crying about the cops need to join the force and pin on the badge and show us how it's done.
     
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    What the hell does "fews" means?...lol
     
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    Sorry about the typos. Please read that post again, I corrected the errors.
     
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    Well you see, I'm as bad as anyone now on the force. They don't need more evil like me, it's your high moral values and righteous strength that is needed. I have no doubt they'd hire you and in no time at all you'd have good sending evil packing.
     
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    Look this went above and beyond anything even remotely reasonable. I'm conservative and any voice trying to pin blame on this guy is a really bad look considering the facts today. He was subdued, cuffed, pepper sprayed and literally beaten so bad that his body couldn't survive. I'm all for some political banter but this was murder and may end up being 1st degree before it's all said and done.

    To your point though, no one should ever resist, ever. It increases adrenalin for all sides and opens the door for you to get severely hurt.
     
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    Is Crump out of his mind? In a black city with a black mayor that has a black police chief an event takes place where the entire race hustling world is trying to pin this on white supremacy and he thinks the white guy is being protected? By who?
     
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    The thing is they screamed he wouldn’t give them his hands and was resisting while an officer held both of his hands behind his back and another punched him in the face and then hit him repeatedly with a metal baton.

    They did this because they didn’t know they were being watched by a SkyCop and wanted an excuse from their body cams.

    They were super aggressive with him from the moment they forcefully pulled him from the vehicle and pinned him on the ground.

    That they lied about him punching an officer as well as him going for one of their guns makes everything they have said no longer credible.
     
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    There are a few people here that I have a very low standard of and most of them are showing just how low they can go.
     
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    Because there are zero Democratic cops(?).

    And there are NO cops, who do not beat, at least some of their black, suspects... yes?
     
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    Here come the FEDS!
    Hallelujah!
    The Feds got Chauvin and his 3 thugs for the death of George Floyd, James Fields for the death of Heather Heyer and Travis/Greg McMichael and Roddy Bryan for the death of Ahmaud Arbrey.


    "United States Attorney Kevin Ritz says a civil rights investigation into the death of Tyre Nichols by Memphis police is ongoing."


     
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    No-- and I say this to be helpful, not to be mean-- you need to learn what acting like an ass, means. Your semantic discriminating, between someone's dying while the blows are still landing, versus someone who expires three days later, from the injuries inflicted in that beating, is both an inconsequential distinction (legally speaking), as well as in very poor taste; it presents yourself, as someone who is callously insensitive to the loss of human life (at least that, of this black man).


    P.S.-- I would also recommend, while discussing Nichols' death, your minimizing your use of "lols."
     
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    Good news that the medics and FD Lieutenant were fired.
    State and federal charges should be forthcoming for the medics and the Lieutenant.


    'Two More Memphis Police Officers Are Suspended in Tyre Nichols’s Death'

    'One officer, Preston Hemphill, used a stun gun that hit Mr. Nichols in the torso, according to a police report on the incident.'

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    MEMPHIS — The Memphis Police Department confirmed on Monday that two additional officers had been taken off duty in connection with the death of Tyre Nichols, saying little except that the two were under investigation as city officials and prosecutors worked to determine who beyond the five officers already charged with second-degree murder should be held responsible.
    Those investigations also led to the firing on Monday of two medics and a lieutenant by the Memphis Fire Department for failing to follow protocols, including properly assessing Mr. Nichols’s condition while he was slouched on the ground against a police vehicle, officials said. The Shelby County Sheriff’s Department is conducting its own investigation into the actions of two of its deputies at the scene; both have been relieved of duty pending the inquiry’s findings."

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    "The Police Department would not answer questions Monday about the seventh officer. A spokesman said only that “we will update our social media when additional information is available.”

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    https://archive.is/DUQkO
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/us/memphis-officer-suspended-tyre-nichols.html
     
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    I've come to believe that as long as it was a black man that was killed some posters here jump through hoops defending those responsible.
     
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