Biden has created more jobs in 2 years, than any President in history in any 4 year-term

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  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    So, you didn't crow when the majority of jobs created under Reagan, GWB and Trump were service sector jobs? Good.

    Somehow, however, I have a hard time believing it.
     
  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ah! The Deep State Conspiracy Theory.

    Last resort of Republicans when they have no arguments.

    Sorry. Not interested!

    I don't know where you live. The McDonalds at the corner has a sign that a year ago said they were hiring at $12, then went to $15 and is now at $17. It's been a while since I've been to Wendy's, but a few months ago it said $15. And they didn't have enough personnel to open the dining room. They were drive-through only.

    So the statement you made was unsubstantiated (no references), and I have made it even less than unsubstantiated.
     
  3. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    I don't see the numbers like you'all do :)
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  4. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    OK then $15 it is! I stand corrected!!!
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    I'm sure the first thing these new additions to the work force will do is BUY a 120k truck and a 500K home ;)

     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Nope I didn't, you're right ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know that. You're under standing orders to now believe anything you read or hear. The rest of us have to deal with reality.
     
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    Yep. Trump lowered taxes, reduced/eliminated senseless regulations and created 500,000 manufacturing jobs. Biden rode the upswing.

    Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 10.47.40 AM.png
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    And if this were Trump's presidency you would have made the same claim?

    And Covid has been over for the most part for over for some time now.

    Spare this forum of hypocrisy, please.
     
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    The implied and per-se assertion that Biden's actions are somehow responsible for employment numbers returning to pre-pandemic levels after the pandemic is, shall we say, ridiculous. Those jobs came back because the American economy entered the pandemic in a fundamentally strong position. Whether the recovery was stronger or weaker than it would have otherwise been with a different President is the debate.
     
  10. Bullseye

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    . Guess again. Do a little real research.
    No, I think Trump created jobs because of BLS data. Again, research helps. He also had a Pandemic, to deal with and Democratic governors shutting down schools and businesses which killed jobs.
    Here's the BLS plot of jobs from 2017 to the present.
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  11. Bullseye

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    I could call this a lie, but that would assume you're doing more than mouthing LW mantras (Obama had FOUR trillion-dollar deficits, BTW) until the pandemic forced massive spending to help the counter through the pandemic.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's hardly surprising..... we see this all the time.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I came up about 20 yrs ago, and the trend will continue as more people retire. The difference in the past few years is less than 1 percent.
     
  14. ButterBalls

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    LOL, you fancy me a leftist, now that is funny :)
     
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    Job creation during Trump admin was fairly anemic.

    And you think this is bad news.

    No, you HOPE it was bad news, but its not.
     
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  16. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you want to discuss hypotheticals. What would have happened if there were another President. Impossible to know, so I could care less.

    All I know is that Biden proposed a series of bills intended to create employment, and... lo and behold... employment was created. Is it possible it was a coincidence? I guess it's possible. But that's pretty lame. The bills did exist. For the sake of comparison, we could look at the previous President who inherited a strong thriving economy, and then enacted NO bills to keep it in the same path or create employment. And then the economy tanked! Sure... there was the "great excuse": Covid. Covid was real but there was NO legislation passed to even TRY to create jobs in all those four years NONE! He didn't even TRY to pass any legislation that would create any significant number of jobs. And he didn't. In fact, he LOST jobs compared to his predecesor.

    Sure.... you can say all this was pure "chance". Because there is no mathematical formula that determines how many jobs are created by each bill. But it's clear to any moderately intelligent human being that this would be nothing more than a partisan excuse.

    Bottom line: Obama enacted legislation to create jobs. Jobs were created. Trump enacted NO legislation to create jobs. And jobs were not created. Biden enacted legislation to create jobs. And again jobs were created. Any moderately intelligent human being would start to see a pattern. You, on the other hand, are in the uncomfortable and very undesirable position of trying to claim that all this was.... I don't know... "pure chance"? I do not envy you.
     
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    You can call it anything you want, but it is a factually correct, which means anything else would be a lie. Trump ran up the debt as much as Obama, and he did it in half the time. The debt run-up didn't start in 2020, it started to go up year-1 in his presidency due to totally reckless spending hikes & revenue cuts.

    Did you get one of these gifts from your leader?

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    If it were the Trump era we would have never read or heard a word about such a mediocre, manipulated pile of bullshit :)
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    One difference is, Trumps spending produced positive results. Mr. Obatards only produced cooked books and leftist fuzzy math and it's no different under ByDummy. It's become the DNC norm now :)
     
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    What a crock! And you're the guy that checks into the validity of all of his research? :)
     
  21. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. Sure. Heh-heh.

    If you want to call 25% increase in unemployment or average GDP growth if 1.5%, or $8 trillion increase in debt a "positive result" then so be it. Most people would disagree. His economic record is among worst in US history.
     
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    So your saying he definitely, clearly, absolutely, emphatically DID create jobs... but if he didn't, it was because of the pandemic. Hilarious!

    Trump has the worst job creation record since Herbert Hoover. Except Hoover TRIED to create jobs. Trump didn't even TRY. There is NO legislation passed to create jobs. That's why he DIDN'T. If there had been no pandemic (or if he had handled it properly) most likely he would have continued on his free ride on Obama's economy and he might not have ended up looking as the slob we now know he was.

    Pandemic or not, Trump did NOTHING to create jobs in any significant number other than a few thousand for things like building an idiotic wall that never got built. In four years... NOTHING. In two years, Biden multiple job-creating bills. Which might not have worked but, apparently, they DID (we'll see if the trend continues). Point is that there is a REASON that might explain Biden's success in creating jobs: ie new bills. There are NO bills on Trump's name to create jobs.

    As I mentioned to another poster, we had Obama who DID enact legislation to create jobs, and jobs were created. Then came Trump who enacted NO legislation to create jobs... and he didn't. Then came Biden and enacted legislation to create jobs, and again jobs were created.

    Any semi-intelligent person would spot a pattern. This is what reality looks like when it's based on facts, and not on what Tucker Carlson tells you it is.
     
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    You gonna really try to ignore the pandemic :) LMFAO
     
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    ByDummy like Mr. Obatard had a reset :) And they capitalized on a huge "Return to work" recovery.. Odd a man of your intelligence would ignore that blaring bit of fact ;)
     
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    I'll file that in the vacuous drivel file.
     

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