Are we all clear now that Trump is a criminal?

Entered what?

 

Zero evidence.

Either produce the evidence or......

Otherwise, be gone.

 

Well, have it your way. What good does it do to argue with you? I've told you flat out that I would not want Trump back in the White House, and then you repeat your mechanical condemnation about me being a "MAGA". To that I will only confess that, yes, I would like to see America as great as we were before W. Bush's presidency. Seems like nearly everything has gone to hell for working American taxpayers since then.

You who are the loyal Democrat inner-party of 'fringe-liberals' are in for some disturbances of several different kinds centering around the continuing ruin of the Biden admn. But so are Republicans, and they'd better confront the reality that Trump won't be their candidate in 2024. Anyway, Golem, keep your eye on DeSantis and RFK Jr. And think about the choices we'll have to make when those two are all we've got.

Your posts are interesting and I must say your wit is incisive and entertaining (although quite biased), such as we saw in the post 409 above. I really liked that one!

 

Do you know the difference between evidence and an allegation? The allegation has been made that Joe Biden has taken a bribe because the House Committee has read the FBI form that said there are tapes that prove he did take bribes. The House committee's investigation is ongoing.

 

Boy o boy, where to begin? Well, some of the better known ways to launder money is through multiple shell corporations and their subsidiaries, often located in different countries scattered throughout the world. If anybody could command a lot of international expertise, who would be better served than someone with the stature and power of the vice-president of the U. S.?

It will be interesting to see how Republicans "market" their Biden crime family revelations, though, considering that they'll only get visibility on two networks, Fox and Newsmax. All the rest will be like the three monkeys.

 

None for me if you don't argue based on the facts. The only thing I can assure you is that I do.

So? That doesn't preclude the fact that you are repeating MAGA unsubstantiated talking points. As I said, you try TOO hard to project a false appearance of "independence". And I don't mean that as an insult. I'm just stating a perception that you might even come to realize yourself if you could read your own posts objectively. Nobody cares who you... or I ... want in the WH. We're here to debate issues based on FACTS! So just go with the facts and avoid the kool-aid. When you start babbling about "bribes", for which there is ZERO evidence. And you do this to try to derail a thread that is SPECIFICALLY about Trump's crimes for which there is more than abundant evidence... it's clear to anybody reading this that you are just another victim of MAGA propaganda. Simple as that.

If there is ever evidence of "bribes" or anything of the sort, I will call for Biden's removal even louder than you. But it's just the newest talking point they have come up as the others have run stale: pizzagate, Dominion, Seth Rich... They ALL came with a "just you wait and see" MAGA seal of approval that you used

It also makes no difference what I am or who I'm loyal to. Only thing that matters is that every claim I have made is based on facts. And if they're not, argue against the facts with facts. Not with hearsay and MAGA kool aid. It's embarrassing!

I believe he will be. I don't see anybody in the Republican field even attempting to challenge him. Most of them are running to be Trump's VP. They announce they are running, and immediately say they will pardon Trump. Which is the only thing Trump is interested in at this point.

Thanks!

 

There is a form that says someone has tapes that make the allegation that Biden took a bribe.

 

I found an interesting article to make me question just about everything…

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...l-intelligence-voice-phone-scams/70216185007/
The call is coming from inside the internet: AI voice scams on the rise with cloning tech
Jennifer Jolly
Special to USA TODAY


Seeing it all unfold
“A criminal only needs three seconds of audio of your voice to ‘clone’ it,” Talcove warns. “Be very careful with social media. Consider making your accounts private. Don't reveal the names of your family or even your dog. This is all information that a criminal armed with deepfake technology could use to fool you or your loved ones into a scam.”

 

The average citizen commits several federal crimes a day. Usually they dont even know it. I've always said Trump is likely a criminal. Both in the sense that most of us have committed federal 'crimes', and in the sense that no one can be heavily involved in real estate in NY without breaking some red tape here and there. So far, Trump has committed offenses against the bureaucracy. Theres no victims. The only people obsessing over these offenses against the bureaucracy are people who obsess over following the rules and who appear to love the bureaucracy of govt. Trump isn't doing anything other POTUSes didn't do. He's just not allowed to get away with things like the rest of them did because he isn't respectful of the holy bureacracy. And there's a lot of sympathy for that sort of behavior going around. So, sure, you can call Trump a 'criminal'. I mean you always could anyway, free speech. But without victims, the 'crime' doesnt mean a whole lot. At least not to those of us more concerned about the spirit of the law than the letter of it. The spirit of the law is to protect people from becoming victims and to promote order. Trump isn't victimizing anyone and he's not promoting dissorder. So 'crime!' all you want, he's still a better pick for POTUS than Biden.

 

Yes, my opinion is that the crimes listed in the indictment are not only serious but very damning in which Trump quite literally has really no legal basis to justify his actions legally. However, it is still up to the court and now a jury of his peers to weigh all evidence in a trial.

 

No, they were offenses against the government of the united states and, by extension, the people of the United States. It's why the indictment reads "United States vs. Donald J. Trump"

 

entering into the congression record is not really anything, whether it was a committee record or not. Bear in mind, the FD 1023 is simply a form in which an FBI agent writes down information from an interview in which the FBI has already concluded that the information is not viable based on their own analysis. It would be interesting to have the FBI provide the after action reports and other evidence and present that into the Congressional record. All of this is just a stunt, no more, no less, in order to try to persuade the general public against Joe Biden in 2024. And if you think if the GOP wins the WH in 2024 that Joe Biden will be charged, think again. We went through this already with someone named Hillary Clinton. No one in the Trump Administration from 2016 to 2020 reopened the case in order to present it to a federal grand jury. Not Sessions, not Barr, not any of the acting AG's Trump had.

 

I don't feel victimized. Do you? Tell me how Trump hurt you...

 

That Form FD 1023 that the GOP is proudly displaying right now. It is the form that has the "Burisma Executive" who allegedly bribed Joe Biden in 2015 or so.

 

By betraying the trust we, the people, put in him when we elected him President.

 

I know the difference, this fellow doesn't

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-is-a-criminal.611190/page-16#post-1074271866

 

What one aspect? The aspect of not returning docs not his?

The charges to trump are all related to not returning NARA/PRA docs.

 

Trust him to not give our secrets to our enemies? He didn't...

 

That's fine, and accurate, but that doesn't mean we cna't hold opinions based on the data in the indictment, there are transcripts of tapes that are incriminating.

 

Enjoy the rest of your day.

 

The bolded was before Bush W.

Much of the blame can be put on NAFTA, will Shaftya, pushed by Gingrich and signed by B Clinton.

 

Never said the path would be easy.
But tracks are there to follow.

It would be easier to believe one became a criminal if over the course of 40 yrs of public service there's a pattern of mischievious activity.

 

Your opinion is, "you think he is guilty based on the evidence presented." However, that is completely different than saying he is a criminal, which indicates a trial has already been done. You chose your words poorly Patricio.

 

Guilty of triggering all the right enemies of the state? yes.

You do realize a mug shot with trump smiling will be his best campaign merch right?

 

It doesn’t.