The Best thing of all about the GA Indictment...

What Derideo-Te proposed was cruel and unusual punishment. See post #68. In the US we don't treat prisoners with the intent of driving them crazy.

 

So you think the jurors faces will be shown on tv? That would be illegal

 

They defrauded Georgia. Not just the US. I know you'll never actually read the indictment, but you would learn a few things if you did.

 

Correct. "Not just the US." If fraud was committed, it was committed against the entire US.

 

GA legislature can simply change the parole rules after he's convicted. Or before for that matter. Of course McConnell will not be pleased by this, and will probably lobby them not to change anything. But will what's good for the GOP in general matter at all to individual state reps looking to bolster their own personal careers? It's doubtful.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ctment-fani-willis-georgia-pardon-1234807175/

Ugh. A senator who betrayed his nation by voting for acquittal even after J6. A coward, or co-conspirator. In the end, the result is the same.

 

Yes. And also against the individual states that were defrauded. Now you're learning!

 

The firing of Comey has nothing to do with this or what I said of whixh rhe irony is on the prosecutors mot Trump.

Again he is being prosecuted with these stretched novel interpretations of legal theory for his legal advisers stretched novel interpretations of legal theory.

 

Absolutely. That is why the FBI and federal DOJ should handle it. Every person in the US was affected by what happened in Georgia.

 

The "legal theory" was a blatantly illegal plan that, on the face of it, violated the Constitution and the ECA. Even his own people who concocted the plan said it wouldn't survive the courts. Hell, they even LIED to the people they were recruiting into the plan. If this is your defense, then crime simply doesn't exist anymore. You can do anything you want and just say you had a "legal theory" that it was kosher, and then no one can ever be convicted for anything.

 

HEY I don't claim Trump won OK. Didn't at the time. HE DID......


Again he is being prosecuted with these stretched novel interpretations of legal theory for his legal advisers stretched novel interpretations of legal theory.

The irony of it all...

 

The federal courts will handle that part. But you are under the mistaken impression that this is mutually exclusive. It isn't. He will be tried in federal court for defrauding the federal government and in state courts for defrauding state governments. Both apply.

 

I'm sorry I never read anything in the history books about Al Capone running for President and challenging election results when he lost. Of course his paid off politicians in that Democrat city would never have charged him he would have been treated le Biden njt Trump.

 

That amounts to double jeopardy. Trying twice for the same crime.

 

No. It doesn't. Please tell me you know this. I think your average junior high kid who has passed their civics classes knows this.

 

Bbbbbut Joe Biden is the big guy!! George Soros!

 

Your point about the caliber of legal talent Trump has access to is well taken. You don't take your cheaper-by-the -dozen legal scrubs into federal appelate court or SCOTUS to argue first amendment, fifth amendment or 14th amendment legal challenges. That was a big problem with all those election law legal challenges post 2020. The law was lousy, the legal research was lousy, and the lawyers were embarrassing themselves. He had better come up with big bucks and put some money into a secure account devoted for that specific purpose for timely and full payment of legal services to make whichever firm he hires confident of payment, if he wants to stay out of prison.

There really isn't any incentive for the best and brightest to accept Trump as a client.

 

If your "stretched novel interpretations of legal theory" are found inapplicable by a jury of his peers assessing the evidence and sworn testimony, the Loser will be acquitted.

 

No, it isn’t.

 

To challenge an election stop with the leftwing hyperbole it only shows the weakness of your position having to resort to it.

This entire matter is about the legal remedies his campaign was seeking and the novel and stretched legal premises just as with the charges that have been made against him.

 

There was a fake elector scheme, dude. Those "legal remedies" went against the Constitution and the ECA. You use the word "novel" when the appropriate label would be "batshit insane and illegal."

 

“Under the Georgia law, there’s a statute that limits the Republican governor’s ability to pardon. I think that the legislature in Georgia needs to amend that statute and give Gov. Kemp the ability to pardon in this situation,“ he told Fox News in an appearance late Monday night.

So......after Trump tried to violate the will of the people in the 2020 election that nitwit wants to potentially violate the will of the jury by pardoning Trump.

 

Sorry I don't do requests. If you can't read news, I can't help you.

 

The Trumpers’ legal theories are most amusing.

 

IOW, he can’t.

 

They were alternate electors in case any of his challenges succeeded dude. His legal team believed these novel, actually some had been invoked before, where legal and constitutional as they told him.


...So in Georgia, as well as a few other states, at the urging of lawyers working in tandem with the Trump campaign, Trump supporters in Georgia decided to choose electors on Dec. 14 on a contingency basis. That is, the electors would be selected, and if, at a later date, Trump prevailed in court and Biden's electors were disqualified, the Trump electors would be presented to Congress on Jan. 6. There was no realistic chance of that happening, but many of the Trump supporters were not ready to give up.

Shafer publicly announced the Republicans' intention. He invited the press to cover the meeting at which "electors" were chosen. He tweeted about it when it happened. There were news accounts of it. "We were told by the lawyers that if the Republican nominees for the Electoral College did not meet on Dec. 14 and cast their votes, then Trump's lawsuit would be mooted because there would be no remedy available to him if he prevailed," Shafer told me in January 2022. "So we met to preserve his remedies if he prevailed."

Shafer's group met in the Georgia State Capitol in Atlanta, the same day the Biden electors were meeting elsewhere in the building. The GOP had invited reporters to come. Some did, from both local and national outlets. You can read this account of the meeting — "As electoral college formalizes Biden's win, Trump backers hold their own vote" — in the Washington Post.

Just to make sure everyone knew what was happening, Shafer posted what had been done within an hour after the meeting's conclusion. "Because the president's lawsuit contesting the Georgia election is still pending, the Republican nominees for presidential elector met today at noon in the State Capitol and cast their votes for president and vice president," Shafer wrote. "Had we not met today and cast our votes, the president's pending election contest would have been effectively mooted. Our action today preserves his rights under Georgia law." Shafer did not claim that the Trump "electors" chosen that day were the real Georgia presidential electors but that they would be ready to step in should Trump win his election lawsuit and the results be overturned...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trump-indictment-four-too-much

From the WaPo at the time

ATLANTA — Republicans in six states won by President-elect Joe Biden held their own electoral college-style votes Monday for President Trump — hoping that future court decisions would throw out Biden's votes and count the GOP ones instead.

These votes have no legal meaning, according to election law experts. The law only recognizes votes from electors chosen according to state law — which, in every one of these states, is the Democratic electors.

But many Republicans who had been chosen to cast electoral votes for Trump still gathered to cast them. They said they were employing a tactic used by Democrats in Hawaii in an election 60 years ago — casting votes that don’t count, in the hopes that a later court decision would give them force.

This year, that seems very unlikely to work...

..“We took this procedural vote to preserve any legal claims that may be presented going forward,” said Bernie Comfort, Trump’s Pennsylvania campaign chairman, in a statement put out by the Pennsylvania GOP. “This was in no way an effort to usurp or contest the will of Pennsylvania voters.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...fcc59c-3e52-11eb-9453-fc36ba051781_story.html

Nothing criminal. Nothing RICO.