The Best thing of all about the GA Indictment...

. . . the memos of Trump's own lawyers say you are full of ****. No one is dumb enough to think that they were just "alternate electors in case any of his challenge succeeded." It would take a special level of refusal to read to delude yourself into believing that lie.

 

That's why it should go federal and not some politically motivated local county prosecutor abusing their authority to effect a Presidential contest. This prosecutor is not just going outside her county jurisdiction but outside her state in an election that comes under federal statutes for election violations.

 

Nope as my site CEARLY demonstrates.

 

Trump's lawyers' memos say you are full of ****.

 

@Derideo_Te

It is unwise to count one's chickens, before they are hatched. While it sounds like Prosecutor Fani Willis has a good plan in mind, to get some of the 19 defendants to cop pleas, by becoming prosecution witnesses, she is still swinging for the fences, here, so that her chances of a conviction are not as good, as in the federal cases; the documents case, should be a slam dunk.

Also, because of the complexity of trying so many people, on so many different charges, there is much more reason to expect delays in this Georgia case, regardless of Ms. Willis intention, to get to trial in six months. IOW, this indictment would seem to be the least likely to have been tried, before the election, and the most likely one to not end in a Trump conviction (possibly, instead, with a hung jury).

 

Reams of evidence on Trump. Read all of the indictments, the Senate Judiciary Report, the 1/6 committee report, hundreds of hours of testimony, from Trump's inner circle, text, emails, the works, over 30 persons in the GA indictment flipped on Trump.

Your statement defies credulity considering all of the above and NOT ONE PIECE OF DIRECT EVIDENCE ON JOE.

Not one.

In fact, your statement boggles the mind, at least the mind of a rational person.

 

Is there anything beyond your own "Orange Man innocent" musings showing a bias? How about a credible source that RICO can't encompass action outside GA used to commit crimes WITHIN GA? To me, that's a fairly basic notion.

 

Plenty of circumstantial evidence and that is the kind of evidence usually used to win prosecutions.

 

Like what?

 

Maybe in civil suits if there is enough of it to justify a greater than 50/50 chance it's correct, but in criminal, it's 'beyond a reasonable doubt, and without direct proof, that doubt is not that high of a bar to reach, especially given the simple fact no one is going to deprive the president of the united states of his liberty with 'circumstantial evidence', as a high powered attorney will level you argument on cross, and in closing.

 

Your faith in Biden that he cannot possibly do wrong has so clouded your judgement that you refuse to look and believe the evidence presented. I look at his propensity to lie and refusal to acknowledge his own grandchild as character flaws which make him likely to perform criminal acts.

 

The majority of criminal cases are decided from circumstantial evidence when direct evidence is not available. It happens every day. But thanks for the legal advice.

 

I wouldn't follow the character flaw position. We all have them. But I do believe that if a jury were to have to decide a bribery case against Biden with the circumstantial evidence available today he would be convicted. Biden tried to keep himself at arms length from the influence selling by having his compensation hidden in various ways but the reality is that he is a multimillionaire today and not from book sales. An example is Hunter paying his bills for more than a decade, something Hunter actually complained about. Being able to avoid spending his salary is a great way to improve savings and investments.

It's hard to become a multimillionaire on a lifetime of government salaries. It is possible but he hasn't made any suggestions on how he became a multimillionaire and he doesn't appear to be smart enough to do it in any manner other than influence selling. 20 some odd ghost companies. He even bragged about getting the Ukranian prosecutor fired to protect Burisma. Payments to many family members I think the rest of us can see the how pretty clearly.

 

You have a bad habit of making sh*t up. I never said that. What I said was I have yet to see any evidence
of wrong doing.

Since your first claims is bogus, and your second is predicated up on it, it, too, is false.

I've look at ALL the evidence anyone has presented on this forum. And NOTHING directly implicates Joe.

You see, kriman, if you are going to deprive the liberty of a US President, it had better be better than 'suggest' 'looks bad' 'alludes to', blah blah blah,.
which is all you have posted thus far.

You look at it through the lens of hatred, which has clouded YOUR judgement, severely.

 

Nope, nothing legal about the "alternate slate" of electors in GA

Georgia state law requires that if any of the electors who sign the electoral certificate are different than what was on the slate when the election happened then the Governor must sign off on the changes.

Knowing that this slate of electors was an illegal attempt to usurp the election they didn't even inform the Governor of changes made to the slate. They KNEW that if they submitted for a list of changes for the Governor to sign the jig would be up.

So even IF they were meant to be an "alternate slate" it was still an illegal slate since the Governor did not sign off on the changes to make up of the slate.

 

Furthermore what happened in Hawaii in 1960 doesn't help the Republicans because there were no active cases when the GA fake electors signed their phony baloney certificate. There was no "court case" for the Republicans to prevail in.

 

I don't think your claim of 'majority' is accurate. You'll need to substantiate that claim.

Now then, It really depends on who we are talking about.

A known serial killer, for the good of society, might be taken off the streets with a plethora of circumstantial evidence.

However, No one is going to deprive a former or sitting US President of his liberty on circumstantial evidence and that is precisely why I ask for direct evidence.

 

Are they owned by Joe Biden?

 

You are correct that it is illegal in Federal trials.

Can you please provide the relevant laws in GA where that is prohibited?

 

That was the most PATHETIC deflection you have ever posted here.

Your feeble attempt to claim that the charges are "novel" lacks substance as DEMONSTRATED by the use of these SAME charges in other prior cases.

The ONLY thing that is "novel" is that YOUR Gobfather is going down AFTER he LOST the 2020 election and RESUMED his role as Individual 1 thereby NO LONGER eligible for any "exemption" against his egregious VIOLATIONS of the Law of the Land.

I am sure that you can arrange to visit him once he is INCARCERATED so you can let him know that you are still LOYAL to him.

 

Agreed! The only incentive for these 3rd raters to take the job is to obtain name recognition so that they will be hired by those on the right who find themselves on the wrong side of the law. The free publicity and face time on Faux Noise makes up for the lack of payment from their perspective. I suspect they already know that he is going down.

 

Thank you for CONCEDING that you CANNOT substantiate your baseless allegation.

 

The BS below is an attempt to JUSTIFY the ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL subversion of the Electoral College Act.

It FAILED because it was and still is a CRIME to VIOLATE the ECA.

Once the PRISON DOORS have SLAMMED SHUT on this CONSPIRACY to subvert the Will of the PEOPLE the next step is to PREVENT this from happening ever again.

The Electoral College is a RACIST ANACHRONISM that must be flushed down the toilet.

By committing this CRIME against We the People the Bigliest Loser has inadvertently ENABLED Congress to TRASH the ECA.

The Law of Unintended Consequences is going to come into play here and utterly DESTROY the GOP's hopes of ever winning the presidency again in my lifetime.

 

Your Bigliest Loser committed a CRIME within HER jurisdiction which she is REQUIRED by LAW to PROSECUTE.

Your Bigliest Loser's CRIMES are what are preventing him from ever stepping inside the Oval office ever again.

 

Your points are valid.

But they don't matter because we already know that this is going to be a GOP 3-ring CIRCUS televised LIVE during the 2024 election season.

We all know how insane these people sound when they have a microphone and cameras on them and I have little doubt some of that is going to be included as EVIDENCE during the trial.

All the Dems need to do is just ask We the People do you really want these crazy loons back in power?

So whether the Bigliest Loser is convicted in GA, DC, NY or FL is neither here nor there.

That his entire CULT of UNAMERICAN criminals are EXPOSED for the entire nation, and the world, to see for themselves is the primary OBJECTIVE.

The GOP has been CORRUPTED to the core and is a threat to our democracy IMO.

As a nation we are at a crossroads where we either UPHOLD the Law of the Land or we become just another "sh1thole state" like Russia.

We the People are better than this and I would much rather we do this in courtrooms around the nation than the alternative.

Every aspect of the CRIMINALITY is going to need to be DOCUMENTED and PROSECUTED so that future generations will grow up LEARNING that NO ONE is ABOVE the Law of the Land.

Unfortunately we have too many who currently believe that the law does not apply to themselves or their representatives.