Trump does not have presidential immunity in January 6 case, federal appeals court rules

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So no need to interfere with Trump's campaign unless you're scared.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So it's your view that the phrase "go home with love in your hearts" means trespass and vandalize?

    How many hours have you been here on earth?
    Got any evidence for that?
     
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  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Who’s interfering?
     
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  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    The justice system trying to throw everything they can desperately pathetically at Donald Trump.

    Basically accusing him of anything they can.

    This is how pathetic your party is it needs to stoop to this level to have a hope and a prayer of winning because it's terrible.

    You should want them to lose so that maybe next time they can be less terrible.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He said “fight like hell” on Jan 6th just before “march down to the capital”…..But he did also say in 1987 that he “loved birds”, so in rightwinglandia that exonerates him from everything else….right ?

    JFC

    YES. His own GD words.

    You are not serious here. He said he had a “right” to appoint his own electors…..

    And FTR , the entire premise that he could change the state electors to his own is just lunacy. The STATES control what slate of electors they send to Washington. Scary enough that states can send whatever slate of electors they want, even defying the peoples vote, but the POTUS in no way has any right to change any state elector. Not one!!!!
     
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    This is a dishonest assessment of the situation

    The DOJ is NOT “accusing him of anything they can”

    He has been INDICTED because a number of different grand juries have looked at the evidence provided and UNANIMOUSLY agreed that there is enough evidence to charge Trump with crimes. In this case 92 crimes over 4 different jurisdictions.

    Specifically 5 different grand juries have signed off on this. So, unless you want to contend that 5 judges (and their staff) and 3 prosecutors (and THEIR staff) and the members of 5 different grand juries are ALL in on some huge conspiracy (not to mention all the investigators (and THEIR staff)) then you just drop this idea that the prosecutions are political in nature.

    Or are you just of the mind set that a political candidate is immune from any prosecution, period.?
     
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    No they are of the mindset that trump can do no wrong. Consequently anyone try to hold him to account must be politically motivated.
     
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    Describes Trump supporters to a (no pun intended) T
     
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    Oh you can’t blame us for you running a criminal.
     
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    Every year the rate is reduced, the revenue will be less than if the rate wasn't reduced.

    Why would I even care about the difference in rifles? I don't assault people and I don't ranch.
     
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    if you support gun bans than you are a domestic enemy of the constitution
     
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/

    President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.

    “I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

    “Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.
     
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    The D.C. National Guard, is one of the few National Guard organizations that have an ever-constant global, national and local presence. At any given time, the D.C. National Guard can have personnel, weapons systems and equipment supporting both federal and state missions simultaneously, locally and globally.
    District of Columbia National Guard > About Us > Heritage > History > Federal and state missions (ng.mil)
     
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    I didn't know you were keeping score on the percentage I agree with you. Sinde the vast majority of your posts are pro-Dem or anti-trump, you focus is too narrow to see the broad spectrum of issues. I strongly oppose abortion bans. I have clarified my position many times; I am opposed to unnecessary government interference in our lives. That means the 10 year olds parents get to protect their child from rapists. I also want to protect children from the highly profitable medical system that wants to put them on hormone blockers and remove healthy body parts.

    When faced with the fact that your party is part of the problem, you appear to get angry and resort to distractions. These results are why someone like trump has a chance of being reelected and why your party has to throw 100 criminal charges against him and have him removed from the ballot. As awful as he may be, your party is still worse. Of course, "worse" is an opinion based on the quality of life for those Dems claim to care the most about. Results in income inequality show that Dems, are the party of the wealthy. Just like Reps.

    Your opinion does not refute the fact that tax cuts have never resulted in a loss of revenue for the treasury. Ever! You can come up with a million "couldda, wouldda, examples, but that does not change this easily researched fact.

    I noticed you used the term "developed countries" in your argument. This dishonest tactic allows you to omit data showing that murder is higher in areas that ban private ownership of firearms. The gullible may believe that the presence of roads and bridges changes the functionality of a firearm. It would take profound levels of ignorance to believe such a lie. The truth is that gun laws do not affect criminals; they only provide them with unarmed victims.

    If you want to cherry pick data, lets use Detroit, Chicago, etc. If you want to zoom out to the big picture, throughout history, the vast majority of murder is committed by government. The vast majority of victims are unarmed.
     
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    Highlighted in red: https://www.americanprogress.org/ar...ly-responsible-for-the-increasing-debt-ratio/
    If you don't like that one, there are many more.......................
     
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    For the last ****ing time, the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the NG unless they are federalized. The DCNG is exempt from the Act altogether.

    The state NG units were activated by the states' governors; Trump was too busy eating french fries and watching the news on TV to activate any of the Guard units.
     
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    You cannot not demonstrate that to be true. Otherwise, you could show a year of loss.

    You said that Dems don't want to ban guns and I can show that they do and are currently banning guns.
     
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    You are not contradicting a thing I have said.
     
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    I just don't understand how you can come up with such nonsense and then prersent it like you you aren't trying to deceive. You are. We all know it.

    This is 100% political. Totally.
     
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    You stated that any NG could not provide assistance. That's painfully incorrect. Especially the DCNG, which is exempt from the act altogether.

    You keep repeating a load of crap.
     
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    And you guys want to change the rules, pervert government, abuse power, and deflect from the real issues because of some silly little vendetta. It's petty as hell.

    But you do you. No crying or taking the higher ground when these same tactics are used against Democrats.
     
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    Never said any such thing. You run for the strawman because you have nothing to address the actual arguments.
     
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    2017 and 2018, 2019 for personal income tax.
     
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    Of course I've heard the saying "You could indict a ham sandwich"

    I've also heard the saying that "When something can go wrong, it will go wrong"...do you think things go wrong every single time?

    The purpose of a grand jury is to make sure that the evidence the prosecutor is using is proper and that it is, indeed, enough to show there is a crime and that the defendant probably is the culprit. It is not a trial, it is not a determination of guilt or innocence. It is an outside third party making sure that the prosecution is not abusing its power by indicting someone for which there is no evidence.

    IF this were 100% political then there would have been NO evidence and then there would have been no indictment.
     

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