FBI informant charged with lying about Joe and Hunter Biden’s ties to Ukrainian energy company

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  1. Condor060

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    Joe isn't a private citizen. All Hunter has to do is provide any product or service he provided to earn 24 million from foreign nationals.
    What was he selling?
    Thats the point of the inquiry.


    We know the process.
    HR2 was provided and Schumer refused to provide it to the Senate.
    The new bill has nothing in it from HR2.
    In fact, it allows 1.8 million illegals into the US every year.
    A non starter
     
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    whatever company/companies say you need to file with the SEC. Pick one that committed SEC violations.

    Then once you provide those companies, answer where the companies are located and who they serve.
     
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    What we have here is a case where political actors believing they knew better than investigators totally screwed up an investigation. Nothing more, nothing less.

    I suspect the original plea agreement they had with Hunter Biden was the best they’d could have executed (AUSA Lesley Wolfe now vindicated) and nothing is now a real possibility.

    The inability of zealots to see the forest for all the trees isn’t surprising, but damn they really f’d this up!
     
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    Its also not a good look that this intel was fed to Smirnov by Russia. Any thoughts on that? Or are we just going to hear 'Russia, Russia, Russia' without any consideration that it might be a credible concern? Let me ask you...what are your thoughts on the fact that a CI spread Russian disinformation to Republicans in the year of an election?
     
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    Joe was a private citizen from Jan 20th, 2017-Jan 20th 2021. Additionally, if he loaned money to Hunter, or any other services (like a vehicle, hint hint) and Hunter paid him back, that is not illegal. Anything relating to that would not fall under the impeachment inquiry.

    Read this: https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroo...mpanion-to-house-passed-secure-the-border-act
    By the way, repeating a statement over and over again does not make it true.
    No one here on this board knows the truth in this matter, so we should all keep in mind these are all opinions until pertinent facts are known.
     
  6. Noone

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    I quite reading your long lists long ago, they've proven to be nonsense.
    I'm not attacking your posts, actually I'm just pointing out that they don't amount to anything TO attack.
    I don't give a **** most of the time about most thing's tRumpublicans post. But, then again, someone has to point out their bullshit.
    Disputing history depends on who wrote it. Yours ... no facts to it ... nothing to dispute. You're long lists of nonsense get to long to be worth reading before the first word. :wtf:
     
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    I am pretty sure they have taken that into consideration


    I don't claim to know everything. But I do know what HR2 states

    H.R. 2. The Secure the Border Act of 2023. Introduced by Republicans on May 2, 2023.
    It would Reestablish border policy, including restarting construction on the border wall and requiring the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to create a plan to meet benchmarks for 200 miles of construction each year;

    Reinforce the unrealistically narrow definition of “operational control” as “the prevention of all unlawful entries into the United States, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics, and other contraband”(emphasis added);

    Require the DHS secretary to incorporate physical barriers, infrastructures, and technologies to “achieve situational awareness and operational control” at the U.S.-Mexico border;

    Increase the number of full-time Border Patrol agents to at least 22,000;

    Prohibit the use of U.S. Customs and Border Protection Air and Marine Operations resources to transport noncitizens who will not be detained into the country’s interior;

    Build on Operation Stonegarden to appropriate $110 million per fiscal year — from 2024 through 2028 — for grants to law enforcement agencies working with U.S. immigration authorities near the U.S.’s land and maritime borders;

    Require the U.S. Border Patrol to pull together a strategic plan based in part on information provided by “border community stakeholders” such as hospitals, farmers, ranchers, property owners, victims of crimes done by undocumented immigrants, and others “negatively impacted by illegal immigration;”

    Pull funding for processing noncitizens who have entered the U.S. illegally between ports of entry;

    Bar funds from being disbursed to NGOs that “facilitate or encourage unlawful activity,” defined to include unlawful entry, or that facilitate transportation, lodging, or immigration legal services for people who are inadmissible;

    Restrict the use of documents provided by DHS, such as notices to appear and work authorizations, as valid IDs at airport security checkpoints;

    Limit the CBP One phone application and other similar platforms to only be used for the inspection of perishable cargo, barring its use for the scheduling of immigration interviews for people at ports of entry;

    Mandate government reporting on migration-related economic and security ramifications to states and municipalities along the U.S.-Mexico border, including to law enforcement, school districts, healthcare providers, and farmers and ranchers; and

    Defund an alternatives to detention case management program and CBP’s shelter services program.

    Now if you can show me anything in the new bill that allows 1.8 million illegals into the US that has any relevancy to HR2, I would love to see it.

    And I also know what Biden policies currently control the border. And without reversing these policies it doesn't matter what any bill states.

    1. Executive Order on the Revision of Civil Immigration Enforcement Policies and Priorities – January 20, 2021
    This is Bidens order that rescinded the prompt removal of all undocumented immigrants.

    2. Preserving and Fortifying Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) – January 20, 2021
    Bidens order to fortify the DACA program that provides relief from deportation

    3, Proclamation on the Termination Of Emergency With Respect To The Southern Border Of The United States And Redirection Of Funds Diverted To Border Wall Construction – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders to cancel border wall projects and contracts.

    4, Executive Order on Ensuring a Lawful and Accurate Enumeration and Apportionment Pursuant to the Decennial Census – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders to include undocumented immigrants for the 2020 Census

    5. Memorandum Reinstating Deferred Enforced Departure for Liberians – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders that reinstated Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) program that provides temporary protection against deportation

    6. DHS Statement on the Suspension of New Enrollments in the Migrant Protection Protocols Program – January 20, 2021
    Bidens orders for the removal of the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP) also known as the Remain in Mexico policy

    7. Executive Order on Creating a Comprehensive Regional Framework to Address the Causes of Migration, to Manage Migration Throughout North and Central America, and to Provide Safe and Orderly Processing of Asylum Seekers at the United States Border – February 2, 2021
    Bidens orders to strengthen the asylum and refugee protection systems making it harder to remove illegals making false claims

    8. Executive Order on Rebuilding and Enhancing Programs to Resettle Refugees and Planning for the Impact of Climate Change on Migration – February 4, 2021
    Bidens order on fortifying programs to resettle refugees and to examine the impact of climate change on migration.

    9. Memorandum for the Secretary of State on the Emergency Presidential Determination on Refugee Admissions for Fiscal Year 2021 – May 3, 2021
    Bidens order that increased the refugee admissions ceiling for FY 2021 from 15,000 to 62,500. Biden also reaffirmed his intention to raise the ceiling to 125,000 for FY 2022.
     
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    First you claim my post have no facts in them,
    Then you claim you never read them?

    You read them alright. You just aren't packing the gear to dispute them.
    Or did you think you were the first poster on PF to claim such nonsense.

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    And they magically just found this out, 4 years later, right after its subpoenaed?
    This claim was made in 2020 and knowing of this claim, Wray testified this informant was a long term credible and trusted source
    I think it looks like they are covering their ass for not taking action on it when they got it. Either way.

    I would need more information to give you an opinion.
     
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    So you have no clue what or where these companies are located, yet at the same time you posted these?

    You are just spreading propaganda you took out of thin air. You have no clue who the companies are. You have no clue where they are located.

    So YOU pick one, tell us the name, and you can get your question answered.
     
  11. omni

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    I have a clue. I have no clue which ones you are specifically referring to when you claim they committed SEC violations. Please post which ones you believe committed violations rather than speaking in generalizations.
     
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    I didn't claim anyone committed SEC violations.
    I said Hunter can't claim the money he got from Russia, China, Ukraine, or Kazakhstan is investment capital because he has no SEC filings.
     
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    @omni
    "Pick one that committed SEC violations."
    "Then once you provide those companies, answer where the companies are located and who they serve."

    Sure
    Feb. 28, 2022
    Devon Archer to be sentenced on securities fraud and conspiracy charges
    https://archive.is/XFe9d#selection-2163.0-2163.71
    https://archive.ph/lir23
    https://nypost.com/2022/02/28/devon-archer-sentenced-for-role-in-hunter-biden-fraud-scheme/
    A former business partner of Hunter Biden was sentenced Monday to more than a year in prison for his role in a scheme to defraud a Native American tribe of some $60 million in bonds.
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/p...-fraudulent-issuance-and-sale-more-60-million

    Remember this guy....Tribal Bonds through false and fraudulent representations by John Galanis.

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    https://bidenreport.com/#p=217
     
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    I quit reading your posts with long lists of bullshit.
    Not the one's with long lists of nonsense I don't. Your posts of nonsense are hard enough to get through.
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    I'm AbsaByGodLutely SURE I'm not the first poster on PF to call out YOUR nonsense.
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Now you post this
    And the very next sentence is
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    Maybe you should take a break.
    You're starting to confuse your own self. lol
     
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    So where does it states Hunter was part of the scheme? How does it relate to Hunter other than they were former business partners?
     
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    You don't need to register with the SEC if the company is exclusively foreign.
     
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    Which has what to do with Hunter Biden?
     
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    So why are you saying Hunter needs to register foreign investments with the SEC?
     
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    I didn't claim Hunter needs to register.
    I said Hunter can't claim the money he got from Russia, China, Ukraine, or Kazakhstan is investment capital because he has no SEC filings.
     
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    Yes, he can, because not all investment capital is regulated by the SEC.
     
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    He can? Tell us. How he was able to do that.
     
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    [@balancing act
    ""The bank records and other data do seem to show a pattern of unusual transactions, and there may be nefarious activity involved. We don't know FOR SURE, but there does seem to be smoke. Hunter Biden probably was hiding income from the IRS, but that has yet to be proven.""

    Interesting .... and who do you think has the responsibility to "prove" and investigate these crimes. We seem to get this stuff exposed, but it stops there..[/QUOTE]
    It’s either a huge conspiracy or you’re being lied to by partisan grifters
    Which one seems more likely?
     
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    read the articles.... educate yourself... Hunter and these clowns were business partners for years... he was associated and had knowledge of all their schemes...

    Remember Zhao? I bet you don't...another player in this scheme that Hunter had knowledge of with the Tribal Bonds....

    "Pick one that committed SEC violations."
    "Then once you provide those companies, answer where the companies are located and who they serve."

    Your request was filled and now you don't like or except the answer.... we have three Hunter business partners ...... you wanted "one that committed SEC violations", here you are...

    To Zhao
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    Apparently you're having trouble following a train of thought.

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