Why would you vote for Donald Trump, knowing this?

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure

    Unless you look at recent polling vs the actual results
    And every election since roe

    But we will see — if America picks trump again then they deserve what they get. He gave away trillions to businesses that were not in need, numerous programs filled with fraud, quantitative easing to prop up his failed economy even pre COVID, not to mention his stripping women of their bodily autonomy

    Round two will be much more interesting I think.
     
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    But hasn't Biden run up about as much debt in three years as Trump did in four while fight COVID at the same time?
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are Lucy Flores, Amy Lappos, D.J. Hill, Caitlyn Caruso, Ally Coll, Sofie Karas all drivel also?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The margin of error is not some magic number that guarantees anything.
     
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    Not just a pervert but a self entitled one

    and I keep thinking of Katie Johnson
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    What like kissing young relatives on the head?
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    Who?
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    :applause::applause::applause:

    YUP! My thought exactly! Explains why his Twitter tirades were lauded
     
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    And your evidence for that?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Border, economy, crime, national security.
     
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    Don't forget creepy kid sniffer, Tara Reade's rapist and he took showers with his teenage daughter.
     
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    See the picture above as ONE sample.
     
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    Trump is leading Bribed Joe because the American People had rising wages, rising living standards, stable prices, plentiful goods and services and Trump didn't start any new wars.

    If you wanted folks to vote for Biden over Trump you should have used the last three years to improve the lot of the American People rather than shrinking their real paychecks and pleasing the war machine.

    So how come the Left only gives lip service to the real growth that lifts living standards?

    Included in their coalition are the DeGrowthers:

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    'The Left's New Goal: Degrowth'

    You shouldn't be surprised that Americans will be voting for Trump over that crap. And all the crime and open borders, Americans are pissed off about that, too.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    covid didn’t magically vanish when trump left office. And Biden has placed it in programs that will benefit the nation — like the chips act and the majority of the infrastructure bill that the CBO has said will actually reduce the debt over the next decade.

    trump increased the debt by about 33% while Biden has increased it by about 9%. Biden is was also handed an economy with inflationary pressures and extremely high interest rates while trump had negative interest rates and was handed a pretty good economy.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neither is polling.

    What’s your point?
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, here's how you are wrong.

    If you think Trump stats were better, you fail to consider that his stats are the result of cruelty and inhumane policies.

    If it were legal, we could do even better, we could reduce the stats to zero. How? Merely shoot everyone that tries to cross.

    Of course, that can't be done, but the point is, cruelty artificially yields better stats, and, as a result, those stats are invalid.

    So, in that light, Trump's 'stats' are invalid, because they were the result of cruel and inhumane treatment.

    Four years of that, then we remove the cruelty, and the pent up demand created a spring forward, which gives the false impression Biden is doing worse. had Trump's policies not been cruel, they would have been on par with Biden's, and there would not have been the pent up demand caused spring that occurred.

    However, I suspect you won't be able to understand this. Just understand your understanding is too simplistic to see all the dynamics in play.
    People are just reacting to inflation. But the pandemic was world wide, and by that fact, cannot be the fault of the President. So, he's getting a bad rap. Of course, Republicans are not going to be honest about this. Take that away, and look at the hard stats, and the country is doing much better than under Trump.
    There are far more people living in CA than in the next largest state. CA has the 5th largest economy in the world.

    Rents are high for the same reason the price of a Rolls Royce is high. You get what you pay for, and the very poor become homeless because of supply and demand causes the rent to be high here, as it is a desirable place to live, which is to say, capitalism, the darling of the right, causes it. There are more homeless here because the weather is better here, it's the best in the USA, and if you were homeless, you'd get to california. Naturally,. republicans are going to blame the homeless on Democrats, never mind the fact that the history of CA has more Repubs in the Governor mansion than Democrats.

    Despite the high cost, almost 39 million people still choose to remain. CA's has more of everything, more rich people, more poor people, but free education up to second year of College (first two years of College are so cheap, for all practical purposes, is almost free ).
    Repubs refused to sign the Republican negotiated Border Bill. They did this because Trump told them to, and a 3 Russian oligarchs with ties to Putin donated to Mike Johnson's campaign (and the border bill was tied to money for Ukraine, and as long as Mike and Trump are Putin Puppets, they aren't going to allow money for Ukraine).

    Economy is better under Biden than Trump

    Trump is, by far, a threat to US National Security.

    Trump is a pervert, con man, a criminal, a Russian 'useful idiot' and a traitor to American democracy and values.

    And so you are going to vote for him?

    When you have NO evidence, NONE against Biden?
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You got evidence for that smear?

    Trump was found liable for sex abuse.

    Trump has 25 women accusing him of the very thing be brags, openly, about.

    See, you don't really care about sex abuse, you just hate biden.
     
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    i will not be voting for either of the elderly lame duck perverts.
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is no evidence Biden is a pervert.

    And he is not a lame duck.

    But, it's nice to know you stoop to trash talk.
     
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    Because the alternatives are worse.

    I want RFK. But the pharmaceutical corporations told everyone 'no', and since folks do what they say, I can either waste my vote, or hold my nose and choose the least worse option.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    GOP does not have a platform and more people vote for Democrats in every presidential election but one for the last 30+years. Why? Because you are not telling the truth.
     
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    Those are lies and she is not accusing Biden of rape, but she did try to defect to Russia and she praised Putin on Russian TV, so she's a wacko.
    GOP does not have a platform and more people vote for Democrats in every presidential election for the last 30+years.

    • Ten of the last eleven recessions have occurred under Republican Presidents.
    • Democratic presidents create more than twice as many jobs per year as Republican Presidents.
    • Republican presidents' deficits are 9% higher as a percent of GDP. (this gaged before Trump, it's worse now)
    • GDP grows 44% faster under Democratic Presidents.
    • Business investment has grown more than twice as fast under Democratic Presidents than under Republican Presidents.
    • RealClear Politics Commentary (11/15/23): Democrats Score Better on the Economy. Are Voters Listening?
    • Forbes Guest Post (11/7/16): The Economy Does Better Under The Democrats
     
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    Trump is a lying pervert criminal fraudster and a threat to US National security.

    He is going to prison for his crimes.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You'll cling to anything to forward a right wing agenda.

    I wouldn't be so sure about that, especially if Trump is convicted.
     
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    The fact you're clueless about Biden's behavior renders your opinion meaningless and vapid.

    Here's ONE little sample
     
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