Latricia James should he disbarred for this!

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Systemic means the government did it. A group can still be marginalized by factors other than the government.
     
  2. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A campaign hit piece.
    That's what you have.

    Sorry, that doesn't make it past my spam filter.
     
  3. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    No systemic does not mean done by the government:

    SYSTEMIC | definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary

    Ignore the biology definition. There are others there to help.
     
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  4. Steve N

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    You can lead a horse to water…..
     
  5. kazenatsu

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    In the case of these people, you have to make the connections for them. Even the very basic connections. Point out that 1 + 1 = 2
    Because otherwise their brains are set to turn off if they realize a certain line of thinking doesn't seem to be going in a direction that will give them the conclusion they want.
    They just avoid thinking about things, so they don't have to see things. Plus a lot of times their brains are just not very good at thinking about things and thinking takes lots of effort, so they won't make that effort to think about anything if it's not an area they think is going to give some advantage to them, or reinforce their beliefs.

    You could hand over all the evidence in the world for something, and they wouldn't see it. I mean they literally would be unable to put it together and see it.

    In other words, you can't have the expectation that they will connect the dots themselves, when you're trying to show them something they're not anxious to see.
     
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  6. dadoalex

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    And if the water smells bad, the horse goes elsewhere.
     
  7. Steve N

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    You're doing everything you possible can to tune out the words that James spoke and on that video you can see and hear the words come out of her mouth.

    You're a true believer.
     
  8. dadoalex

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    I believe what is true.
    When the unedited footage is posted by a reputable source I'll look and make my call.
    Till then I'll have to be satisfied by her pursuit of justice.
     
  9. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol, you said you don't trust stuff on youtube, so how can anyone post what she said in a way that you would believe? Also, I would do a search myself and post it, but I know you would find a way to ignore it and put your head in the sand.
     
  10. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reputable source
     
  11. popscott

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    James running her mouth is a source you can not argue...
     
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  12. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Much of what she spewed is about national policy which is none of her business and not her job. The part about her going after Trump is something the person you responded to won't look at because he doesn't trust youtube.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not Youtube
     
  14. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How deep into the ocean of denial are you willing to go?
     
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    BTW, you can sum this all up with 2 words. Cognitive dissonance.
     
  16. FatBack

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    I see that the thread is four pages old but I have only read your opening post.... I'm just here to see if you've been called racist for your opinion yet.

    I don't even have to read the four pages to know it probably happened by the time half of page one was over
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    You need to do some reading, serious reading, there's about a dozen books on Trump, how he constitutes a threat to US national security, but these articles might drive the point home in far greater depth than I can in a 25 words or less.

    Madeleine Albright. "Will we stop Trump before it's too late." The New York Times. April 6, 2018.

    Daniel Altman. "This is how every genocide begins." Foreign Policy. November 30, 2017.

    Samir Amin. "The return of fascism in contemporary capitalism." Monthly Review. September 2014.

    Associated Press. "Obama: Protect democracy or risk taking path of Nazi Germany." CBS News online. December 9, 2017.

    Peter Beinart. "Why Trump supporters believe he is not corrupt." The Atlantic. August 22, 2018.

    Ruth Ben-Ghiat. “An American authoritarian: The Republican presidential candidate is not a fascist, but his campaign bears notable similarities to the reign of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini.” The Atlantic. August 10, 2016.

    Roger Berkowitz. "Why Arendt matters: Revisiting 'The Origins of Totalitarianism'." Los Angeles Review of Books. March 18, 2017

    Noah Berlatsky. "The Trump effect: New study connects white American intolerance and support for authoritarianism." NBCnews.com. May 27, 2018.

    Mark Bickhard. " The scary parallels between Trump and Musollini." Rawstory. March 21, 2017

    Joan Biskupic. "Trump's sustained attacks on American rights.' CNN.com. May 27, 2018.

    Aaron Blake. “Stephen Miller’s authoritarian declaration: Trump’s national security actions ‘will not be questioned.” Washington Post. February 13, 201

    Paul Blumenthal. "This stunningly racist French novel is how Steve Bannon explains the world. Huffington Post. March 4, 2017.

    William Boardman. “Constitutional crisis deepens as Trump fights checks and balances.” Reader Supported News Online. February 11, 2017.

    Tom Boggiani. "Trump sucks his followers in by using the language of fascists: Yale linguistics expert." Rawstory. May 25, 2019.

    Christopher Browning. "Lessons from Hitler's Rise." New York Review of Books. April 20, 2017.

    Christopher Browning. "The Suffocation of Democracy." New York Review of Books. October 25, 2018.

    Jonathan Chait. "The Republican Party's gearing up for war on the rule of law." New York Magazine. October 30, 2017.

    Isaac Chotiner. “How much do the early days of the Trump administration look like the Third Reich?” Interview with historian Richard Evans. Slate. February 10, 2017.

    Issac Chotiner. “Is Donald Trump a fascist? Yes and no.” An Interview with Robert Paxton. Slate. February 10, 2016.

    Isaac Chotiner. “Too Close for comfort: how much do the early days of the Trump administration look like the Third Reich?" Interview with historian Richard Evans." Slate. February 10, 2017.

    Sarah Churchwell. "American fascism: It has happened here." The New York Review of Books. June 22, 2020.

    Chauncey DeVega. "Are white people ready to bail on democracy? These researchers say the danger is real." Salon. August 2, 2018.

    Chauncey DeVega. "Soldiers of the boogaloo: David Neiwert on the far right's plans for a new civil war." Salon. May 18, 2020.

    Lee Drutman, Larry Diamond and Joe Goldman. "Follow the leader: Exploring American support for democracy and authoritarianism." Voter Study Group. February 2018.

    Lee Drutman, Larry Diamond and Joe Goldman. "Testing the limits: Examining public support for checks on presidential power." Voter Study Group. June 2018

    The Economist. “America’s system of checks and balances might struggle to contain a despot.” February 4, 2017.

    Geoff Eley. "Is Trump a fascist?" Historians for Peace and Democracy. Summer 2017.

    Ellen Grey Ellis. "The internet protocols of the elders of Zion." Wired. March 12, 2017.

    John Feffer. "The Trump dystopian nightmare: Nucelar war, climate change and a clash of civilizations are all on the horizon." Alternet. March 12, 2017

    Reza Fiyouzat. "Trump in perespective: Fascism or just more barbarism?" Counterpunch. March 12, 2017.

    Mark Follman. "Trumpocracy: Tracking the creeping authoritarianism of the 45th president." Mother Jones. December 4, 2017.

    John Bellamy Foster. "Neofascism in the White House." Monthly Review. April, 2017.

    John Bellamy Foster. "This is not populism." Monthly Review. June 2017.

    Richard E. Frankel. "Here is how Donald Trump becomes a dictator." Raw Story. October 5, 2018.

    Richard E. Frankel. "A professor of German history explains the true horror of Trump’s response to Charlottesville." Raw Story. August 16, 2017.

    David Frum. “How to build an autocracy.” The Atlantic. January 30, 2017.

    Megan Garber. “‘First they came’: The poem of the protests, Martin Niemöller’s lines, written just after the Holocaust, argued against apathy—and for the moral connectedness of all people.” The Atlantic. January 29, 2017.

    Masha Gessen,Autocracy: Rules for survival.” New York Review of Books. November 10, 2016.

    Henry Giroux. "Donald Trump's fascist politics and the language of fascism." Raw Story. November 18, 2018.

    Henry Giroux. "Facism starts with words - and Trump has a startling romance with the rhetoric of dictators." Raw Story. January 11, 2018.

    Henry Giroux. " The Hardening of Society and the Rise of Cultures of Cruelty in Neo-Fascist America." Counterpunch. March 17, 2017.

    Henry Giroux. "Neoliberal fascism and the echoes of echoes of history." Truthdig. August 2, 2018.

    Henry Giroux. "Rethinking the normalization of fascism in the post-truth era." Tikkun. April 1, 2019.

    Amy Goodman. “Noam Chomsky: Trump's victory recalls memories of Hitler & fascism's spread across Europe.” Democracy Now. Interview with Noam Chomsky. December 6, 2016.

    Van Gosse. "An 'illiberal democracy' if Trump wins again." Organizing Upgrade. May 14, 2020.

    Rosie Gray. “The nationalist right is coming for Reince Priebus.” The Atlantic. February 14, 2017.

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    Alexandra Hall. "Controversial Proud Boys embrace 'Western values,' reject feminism and political correctness." WisconsinWatch.org. November 26, 2017.

    John Haltiwanger. "'There need to be mass protests': Authoritarianism experts say time is running out for Americans to stop Trump." Business Insider. February 12, 2020.

    Bernard E. Harcourt. "How Trump fuels the fascist right." The New York Review of Books. November 29, 2018.

    Josh Harkinson. “The dark history of the White House aides who crafted Trump's ‘Muslim ban’: Here's how Stephen Bannon and Stephen Miller have been boosters of Islamophobes and white nationalists." Mother Jones. January 30, 2017.

    Josh Harkinson. “Meet the white nationalist trying to ride the Trump train to lasting power: Alt-right architect aims to make racism cool again.Mother Jones. October 27, 2016.

    Thom Hartmann. “It can still happen here: Donald Trump, Ben Carson and the “American fascists” among us. Sinclair Lewis feared demagoguery and a corporate ruling class. The right is bringing his dystopia to fruition.” Salon. November 4, 2015.

    Head Space Blog. “History repeats itself: National Socialism – past and present: The psychology of Nazism.” February 15, 2016.

    Chris Hedges. “Donald Trump: The dress rehearsal for fascism.” Truthdig.com. October 16, 2016.

    Aleksander Hemon. "Trump’s nationalism advances on a predictable trajectory to violence. His supporters will kill when they’re told to." The Intercept. May 2, 2020.

    Clive Irving. "It is happening here, Trump is already early-stage Mussolini." The Daily Beast. June 30, 2018
     
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    Most of those articles seem to be more opinion than fact.
     
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  19. FatBack

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    So in other words..... These are her words coming out of her mouth and they are the things that she said but since I don't want to hear them I'm going to say that it doesn't matter
     
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    You did not hear that on here, and if you did, link the posts. I'd like to respond to them.
     
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    No thoughts of your own on why he’s a threat? I can do my own research. I wanted YOUR reasons why you think he’s a threat. Guess that was asking too much from you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    According to @Golem I said that the black guy who pushed a white victim in front of the train probably did so from racism and he said that if that was true that the black guy would have chosen a black victim instead
     
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    Do you know where that post is, I'd like to respond. The argument that only certain people can be racist is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life. I've seen that argument made other places but not here yet, although it's not like I read every post in every thread.
     
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    Somewhere in that thread. I'm as interested as you are in hearing golem explain that one, ergo the mention function. If I remember correctly I may have heard @Cybred make a similar statement before
     
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    Certainly not YouTube crap.

    You, in fact, should be embarrassed for embarrassing this site by posting such obvious fakes.
     

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