The Myth of the Fatherless Black Child

Documented evidence lays the blame accurately on white racist public policy

 

Personally I think whites can stop talking about black behavior and assess their own over the course of American history. Whites have been the most violent lazy and law breaking group here. And these guys should not talk about black fatherlessness when whites created a childrens agency in 1910 to combat the fatherless white child. They created Mothers Aid laws to help women with children who were abandoned by white men. So you are correct to demand that these guys do some introspection.

 

no it's actually mockery of the KKK.

you're just grasping at straws to deny what I say.

Further if I shared the beliefs of the KKK I would think that black people were not capable of performing the strong values and cohesive family units I would think that they were genetically predisposed which probably it's closer to what you think. But you're some sort of victim of some cosmic and Justice I find that incredibly disempowering.

It's empowering to say you are in control of this you can make things better

Everyone has a father nobody's immaculately conceived except for Jesus Christ, if you believe in that sort of thing. But you only listed four people. So even if these people had a father in their life that was involved in their life that still discipline and made sure their children faced consequences for their bad actions even if that was true that's only four people.

And that would make them in the exception not the rule.

And yes sometimes people with a good family life do wrong things and wind up getting killed for it.

 

See this is something that I think we desperately need to change if it's true what racist public policy.

I don't think public policy should ever be in the way of someone prospering. Tell me what it is and I'll march with you to get it changed.

The sad thing is I think there is a public policy that absolutely effects black people more than it affects adians Hispanics and whites and so forth.

Do you want like what it is when I tell you what I think it is

So you say what public policy is harming black people first and I'll tell you what I think it is.

 

Speaking of "vile and repugnant and fallacious" accusations that is what you have been doing against an entire race They condone crime, crime is ACCEPTABLE, they are anti-police and tolerate drug use....Now what's that called? I could say white people are racist. Would that be accurate. Now what's that called? You don't seem to know much about the Black community beyond racist myths, right-wing factoids and what you've seen on Fox. I suggested you learn the history of this nation, have a little empathy and then maybe we all can move forward.

And a flag seen at right-wing rallies next Nazi flags, 1%er flags. Also seen in Washington on 1/6 celebrating an insurrection, but yeah, not quite Klan material.

 

Oh did I offend you mocking your precious ku klux Klan?

I'm sorry I just didn't have any respect for them. So identity politics are contemptuous. I will offer no respect.

So if you are offended that I mock your beloved Klan I'm not sorry.

 

Yes, dodge the point that it is a flag right-wing insurrectionists wave.

 

You need to decide is it far leftists id-pol nonsense like boom and KKK or is it far right?

Make up your mind.

 

False black communities I have repeatedly noted that there are millions of successful blacks in this country and that even you could be one. You're denials of what is actually keeping those communities in the poverty and lack of achievement so prevalent is exactly what will keep them is such conditions and the people living their in that poverty. But no blame on the whites that's a lot easier.

 

And then the black community will suddenly rise out of it's poverty and crime. That if we all knew this history that you seem to know that we don't then everyone in the black communities would suddenly stop all the crime and single motherhood and everyone would suddenly take advantage of the education offered to them?

That is what those in the black community are waiting for?

 

Got flagged again. Somewhere on here I called a racist a racist. It is difficult not to do, but from now on I will refer to them as having a negative racial bias.

 

The evidence is clear........

 

Sorry I missed where you "repeatedly noted that there are millions of successful blacks in this country", but you have repeatedly noted the Black community needs to "rise out of it's poverty and crime". Sounds like a negative racial bias when 70% are working class and above. 17% are in poverty, and yes, that is a bad number and needs improved. The white poverty rate is 8.6% and they also create a disproportionate amount of the crime and violence in the white community. Would it be fair If I said, the white community needs to "rise out of it's poverty and crime".

You have a willful ignorance of US history. I have noted earlier studies have shown conservatives tend to fear and mistrust outsiders. They have low empathy for them and tend to focus on the negative while ignoring the positive. We have a specimen here who doesn't consider Blacks fellow citizens.

 

That's mockery of your precious Nazis I know that you're offended when people mock your precious Nazis but I don't respect them.

 

Oh the irony. Do you realize it is YOUR post which speaks of a bigotry lumping blacks into one stereotype. I am the one who notes the SUCCESS blacks can and DO achieve when they do not engage in the behaviors that plague the failed black communities throughout the country that drives those lower achievement points and continue to do so until blacks themselves make those necessary changes within their own communities. Blaming it all on whites is just an excuse. Crime breeds and produces poverty not the other way around and that is in all communites.

I lived it here did you? And I would behove you to refrain from your need to paint those who merely disagree with you as racist else your post will get reported again. Read posting rule #5.

 

Perhaps you should argue on the merits rather than thinking simply painting someone as a racist refutes their arguments.

 

Oh yes, the irony....I wasn't the one lumping "the Black community" into a stereotype, saying it lives in "poverty and crime", that it condones crime, accepts drugs when a wide majority are not into drugs, in poverty or criminals. That seems to be evidence of a negative bias against a certain race.
You ignore the parts of US history that you find uncomfortable to look at because then you might have to reevaluate your place in society. European Americans have been the upper class since the start of the country. They have controlled the wealth, laws, government and religions. African Americans have always been the lowest class. That is changing, but not rapidly enough, and that makes those who hang on to "traditional values" feel threatened.
Your argument for the improvement of African American life is basically pull yourselves up by your own boot straps because you're not like the rest of us Americans. Something they've been doing since 1865.

 

You stopped making sense a couple of posts back.

 

There are all kinds of laws and policies made over the years that have impacted blacks and every other non white group. Not just 1. And what needs to happen is for whites to recognize this insread of always offering yur opinions. So what I am going to do is provide you with a study to read and please do so before you try telling me what you think things are.

Microsoft Word - Final Kim Article Final Edits 111919.JK Edits.docx (ssrn.com)

 

You need to stop this because whites practice the exact same behaviors. Your opinion is wrong and think I can say that as an expert since I am black. Whites commit the most crimes and the root cause of the probems backs face is white racism.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

Your basis of disagreement is what? Your lived experience as a black person? No. It appears to be based on racIst stereotyes of blacks. Everything you guys say is wrong. You say it is because of fatherless homes. but when it was claimed that black families had fathers in the house, poverty was at least double what it is now.

“As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past.”
-Walter Williams

In 1939 the poverty rate for employed married black couples was 89 percent. In 1959, the poverty rate for that same couple was 54.9 percent. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare and the fatherless black family," black poverty is st least half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those imaginary grand old glorious days of the two-parent black family.

You say it's about crime, well:

In 2020 blacks led in arrests in 2 categories in the Uniform Crime Report, murder and robbery. I am not going to pretend this is a good thing, but let’s look at the arrest categories whites led in:

Rape, Aggravated assault, Burglary, Larceny-theft, Motor vehicle theft, Arson, Violent crime, Property crime, Other assaults, Forgery and counterfeiting, Fraud, Embezzlement, buying, receiving, and possessing stolen property, Vandalism, carrying, possessing, Weapons, Prostitution and commercialized vice, Sex offenses besides rape and prostitution, Drug abuse violations, Gambling, Offenses against the family and children, Driving under the influence, Liquor laws, Drunkenness, Disorderly conduct, Vagrancy, All other offenses (except traffic), Suspicion, Curfew and loitering law violations.

And this is an annual trend.

Blacks get most of the blame for crime, and it is not justified. In 2020, Whites were 51 percent of the offenders for all crimes committed in America. A white offender committed Fifty-four percent of the crimes against persons. Whites committed most property crimes (42%) and crimes against society (65%). Seven out of every ten arrests for crimes in America is on someone white. Whites have a history of criminal behavior that started at the very beginning of this country. Whites have elected numerous criminals to make laws in this country. Whites organized crime and made it a corporate business. Whites control the manufacturing, shipment, and distribution of drugs in this country. Whites made two of the most destructive drugs legal, creating millions of addicted citizens. I am talking about alcohol and nicotine. Whites have embezzled and scammed people out of trillions of dollars in the years America has been a country. Whites control the manufacturing, shipping, sales, and distribution of deadly weapons in this country.

So your opinion when contrasted with reality is so inaccurate as to almost be comedic.

 

You're insulted that I make fun of Nazis.

 

I'm not talking about laws that impacted people. Specifically to impact if they had no impact than they would be pointless. Mm

until you say specifically what it is **** no. I'm not recognizing anything.

I'm not reading any study you need something from me. You need to make it very clear or jump in a lake.

Give me money cuz I'm black. **** no.

 

I don't need anything from you. I made a statement of fact. If you doubt it, you supply the evidence or shut up.

If you don't want to read something that shows a policy that is one basis for reparations then you don't want a discussion. And don't be white making any kind of comment that comes close to your last sentemce to me again.

US Gov Helps Whites 8 Times Historically — The Political Vigilante (youtube.com)

 

if you can't name these things without me reading some horse **** about it I have to take time out of my day because you're too incompetent to formulate an argument then you don't have one.

I want to hear things in your own words because I want to make sure you understand them right now it just seems like you're getting manipulated by the media in order to demand money for being black.

it didn't ask who brainwashed you I asked you what are these policies if you don't know then it's probably nothing.

You're the one saying that I owe you something if you want anything you have to make a better case for it.

If you're too incompetent or too lazy jump in a lake.

This makes you take your ball and go home I guess you don't really have much of a complaint you're just trying to get free money and you realize I'm not the mark.

Good I'm glad the government helped them probably because they're very good at articulating what they need help with.

I am not possessed with any guilt because one time there was slavery. I don't possess any guilt because one time there was redlining. I didn't do that and you're asking me for help so be a vet or advocate for yourself and you might get that help.

I'm not freaking anything I want to see you typed in your own words if you can't do that then you don't deserve anything.

 

Here we go with the same dumb white right wing argument about what you didn't do or what you didn't own.

Whites got those handouts ONLY because they were white. The programs purposefully excluded non whites. Articulation has nothing to do with it.

You're full of excuses.

This ain't just about slavery Mr. KKK. That's what the study I presented showed. You benefitted from redlining and a lot other things that occiurred during the 20th century. I don't care what you want. I've written a book about it. You want to know, then buy it. I showed you a study because people like you will not accept what you want me to type. If I type what you want, you create another hurdle. So then it's best you read the evidence for yourself. And this ain't about what YOU owe, or what YOU have or have not done, it is about what the governments of this nation owe. So I don't have to do aything but show you the government policies. And some of the main policies were the ones mentioned in the study. So I don't GAF what YOU want shown. I gave you what to read, so if you want to stay stupid, that's on you.

The case for reparations will be named Whatever black organization vs. the United States, or vs. the state of, or vs. the county of, or the city of. Not one case will be filed against individual white citizens. So the dumb ignorant argument whites like you always try does not apply.