What freedoms has the side you oppose attempted or succeeded at denying you?

Wrong.

 

Well said.

 

It's not wrong.

 

The dispute over who is infringing on the 1A is interesting to me as from my perspective both sides censor and practice cancel culture. Seems to me that partisans only take offense when their freedom of speech is trampled upon or one of them are canceled for what they say.

Anyway, I appreciate the responses the thread has generated. It helps me to have a better perspective on the rift between the two sides.

 

agreed only an honest man or woman would defend the right of someone who insults them. Or defends the freedom of the press that is trying to expose him. I often wondered what power the press could wield over a politician that came out and said everything they've done wrong and owned it. If it's too wrong to come out and own it then it's too wrong for them to be a politician.

The speech is the primary tool for Liberty the ability to say and hear ideas positions to make a judgment for yourself whether they're right or wrong as the only way you can never have Liberty.

Speech is often used also to expose truth. Truth is only dangerous to liars. So always be suspicious of people who are afraid of the truth. It is also important to have the wisdom to know what it is. That's not biased it's not partisan it doesn't care about right or wrong and simply is.

 

Absolutely I'm right.

 

The main thing driving my vote this time is the fact that the right doesn't think I have the right to vote and they think the vote shouldn't matter. Add that to the attacks on reproductive rights and the insane hatred toward trans kids, and there's basically nothing left.

 

Totally wrong.

 

Prove if you can

 

You mean like abortion? Or are you talking about banning kids from social media? Don’t get me wrong…the Left is guilty of meddling in people’s lives too. Let’s just not pretend it’s one sided. Both sides has issues they want to push onto everyone.

 

Sure. The left thinks minors have the same rights as adults when it suits them---unless the minor is an unborn baby and then they think it can be killed at whim.

The right believes in the constitutional concept of state rights---which decide these types of ethical questions. The left thinks the federal government should rule over all the states---as long as the policies are leftist leaning.

 

Start with life liberty and pursuit of happiness and move on from there.

 

Either way, whether at federal level or state level BOTH sides want to impose their beliefs onto others.

 

So the right wants to control women.

 

The left want adults to kill babies at whim. The right does not. That would be a better and more accurate description.

Look at the "right" you are so much fighting for. The "right" to kill human life.

 

Nope, the right to choose.

 

Every law imposes some sort of a belief on others. But do the laws protect the law abiding or vulnerable citizen? Or are they in place to accomplish an agenda of change?

My gas stove issue---is an example. There are those in Federal Government agencies that want to make gas stoves and natural gas appliances obsolete. The ultimate reason is the agenda to "control" the climate. The excuse is "possibility of carbon dioxide build up" which---is ridiculous.

Is this prospective regulation really protecting me? No. When we lost electricity for 12 days in bitter cold winter after an ice storm---I at least could cook a hot meal and take hot baths and use the natural gas heater w/ radiating heat. Otherwise my family would have been homeless looking for a place to stay with someone who had a generator or natural gas.

And SPEAKING of generators---in our most recent house that had electric central heat/air---when we lost electricity for 5 days due to a storm---the generator was constantly triggering our Carbon monoxide alarms even though it was well away from the window and outdoors.

The left tend toward laws designed to control. The right tend toward laws designed to protect. And the right uses something often lacking in the left ideology---commonsense.

 

Ok, the left wants the right to CHOOSE to kill a human life. An off spring. An unborn baby

 

What if we insisted upon truth in our speech. From both sides. What if we legislated that anyone caught knowingly and intentionally lying to the media or the American public would be prosecuted. Would you be okay with that?

 

Its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death

 

That's true, and it's also true that the right tramples over free speech as well.

 

No one is coming to take your appliances away.
If your generator was triggering the carbon monoxide alarms then clearly you didn’t have the generator in the correct place. My generator has never set off our carbon monoxide alarms.
Sounds like you’re ok with a nanny state. Im against govt banning kids from social media as that should be the parents job. I’m against pot being illegal. And no, I don’t use it. Couldn’t pay me enough to use that crap. But I don’t think govt should play nanny and keep it illegal.

 

To a degree I would be. What should be punishable is a politician outright telling lies about people or events.

 

The problem with truth is that it is subjective and thus not synonymous with fact. For example I can unwittingly relay misinformation that I perceive as true. In that case I would not be lying but neither would what I said be accurate. From my POV the left and right have opposing truths as each are based upon competing principles. Neither side seems particularly interested in realities that are not in line with their political ideology.

I wish facts mattered to the partisan left and right… and they do, but only when it is convenient and advantageous, otherwise it is dodge, deflect, minimize and deny.

 

So IVF should be criminal? It involves the termination of fertilized eggs. That's killing offspring. That's killing, in your terms, an unborn baby.