Five killed in mass stabbing at Sydney's Bondi Junction

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  1. Lewis Edward Smith

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    They sent in a woman to kill the guy so it is likely no wackos will fuss about using lethal measures against the guy. Why not shoot the knife out of his hand.
     
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    The answer is less than 1% of all mass shootings are stopped by a armed civilian.
     
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    which you cannot really prove since if the shooter is stopped before he shoots at least FOUR other people, it doesn't get listed as a mass shooting. We do know that armed civilians are more likely to stop mass shootings than disarmed ones
     
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    What gun would you have used to stop Stephen Paddock?
     
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    It isn’t common for mass shootings to be stopped in such fashion. From 2000 to 2021, fewer than 3% of 433 active attacks in the U.S. ended with a civilian firing back, according to the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University.

    https://apnews.com/article/shooting...gun-politics-8b49655e3737c1924480e1039405a196
     
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    that's three percent that wouldn't have been stopped by unarmed citizens-which is what the left wants. and firing back is MORONIC-I stopped two violent attacks on my person or property by detaining the mopes at gun point. Only one of three times did I have to shoot. so I suspect that the number of active attacks stopped by the display of a weapon is much higher.
     
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    My M21 Sniper rifle-it's a Semi auto national match M14 with a Springfield Generation 3 sniper scope. Of course if I was in the building, just about any handgun would have worked.
     
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    And you walk around with these rifles when you go to a country show?

    The police took 15 minutes to find out where the shots were coming from.

    And when they finally reached Paddock's room, he had committed suicide.

    Except you can't prove it.

    And your personal experiences pale in comparison to the data compiled from hundreds of mass shootings.

    But then again, as always, scientists are idiots....
     
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    Apparently so are your 3rd world Muslim immigrants. Good job letting this nutter into your country. Pump up the diversity, it will make you great.
     
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    Something with long range and a scope. A deer/elk hunting rifle woulda done the trick.
     
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    And do you carry a rifle with you when you go to a country show?
     
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    Every concert I've ever been to prohibits firearms.
     
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    Wow.

    And you never wondered why?
     
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    Apparently so a sniper from outside the venue can kill 60 people while the police fail to stop him.

    Given the 15 minutes, he likely would had a higher body count if he used a hunting rifle rather than spraying bullets everywhere. Fortunately crazy people arent known for making the most effective plans.
     
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    You didn't answered my question.
     
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    They “sent in” a POLICE OFFICER. And, just like soldiers, police officers are trained to aim at body mass, not ridiculous ‘shoot him in the hand’ scenarios…
     
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    Your question was 'and you never wondered why [every concert you've ever been to prohibited firearms]?'

    That sounded more hypothetical... but if it wasn't:

    No. I know exactly why. Concert venues are afraid they'll get sued if there's a shooting by one of their patrons. So they insist their patrons disarm. It doesnt prevent shootings of course, it just makes it so their patrons wont be a financial liability, any shootings will be perpetrated by someone not affiliated with the concert, and thus not obligating the concert for any damages.
     
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    Why don't they buy into the Pro 2A propaganda that the more guns, the safer the place?

    Really ?

    If what you say is true, Trump or Biden would have been assassinated a long time ago, even if the Secret Service disarms all participants in political rallies.
     
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    How do you know this person’s background? All that we know so far is that he is 40 and that he was known to police…??
     
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    Concert venues dont care about safety. They care about money. People still get shot at concerts. You cant sue the concert venue for getting injured on their property if it was due to someone violating their policies outside of their control.

    Personal security only care about the safety of their charge. The SS doesnt ban guns at rallies and speeches to protect the crowd, they do it to protect the politician under their charge.
     
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    I'm less interested in intentions than in results.

    And the results are that the chances of having a mass shooting in a place where guns are banned are infinitely lower.

    Secret Service: No guns at GOP convention
     
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    Except….. a proportion of any population will be untrustworthy and will cause problems with those very guns.
     
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    Who is doing the shooting? Because according to your earlier post if everyone were armed then everyone would be safe
     
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    They sent a woman……..

    Come on you could manage to be more misogynistic…….
     
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    BS. Mass shootings are always worst in gun free zones. IE schools and concerts.

    You're deliberately ignoring the point... but take it up with the secret service. I never voted for them to do that. Did you?
     
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