Trump now running on defending Obamacare and opposing an abortion ban...

As if we had to prove it. Hell, something about changing party affiliations 5 times should have tipped them off.

But, some have to learn the hard way.

Trump's an empty suit.

I thought it was evident that time he was asked if a woman should be punished if she has an abortion, and after some hesitation, he said, 'yes, there should be some punishment'. The fact that he hesitated, when any REAL conservative would have blurted it out quickly, that she shouldn't be punished, and he gave the wrong answer, as if he was trying to figure out what would a republican say, because, he didn't know! That proved he was an empty suit, not a real republican.

 

He's for all the exceptions.

You claim he has no standards, when he has very clear and articulated standards. You? You won't even publicly say that you are against partial birth abortion, where the baby is slaughtered while exiting the womb.

Seems we have a bit of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

Globalism, another right wing boogeyman.

Some global things are inescapable, and necessary.

Others, not so much,. and avoidable.

I take the subject on a case by case basis, but Trump, Bannon, etc., are en mass bulldozers and that is NOT a good thing.

Any man who cannot understand nuance cannot be an effective leader.

 

It appears you're conflating globalism with globalization.

Globalization is a natural occurance. Humans, via technological and sociological developement increasingly share resources, technology and culture across borders as a result of trade for increased efficiency.

Globalism is the unnatural acceleration of cultural exchange and the coercive allocation of resources across borders for the purposes of economic domination and cultural manipulation usually resulting in conflict.

That is the 'nuance' you're missing.

Globalization occurs according to market forces. Its peaceful and mutually beneficial.

Globalism occurs according to political forces. Its extortionary, manipulative and tends to benefit only the elite.

 

You mean like how we did to our indigenous population?

You know, that really sounds a lot like white supremacy/xenophobia

Now, tell me, very precisely, choosing your words carefully, what the f*ck do you mean, and give examples.

 

EXACTLY!!! and the Trumpians blame Biden for porous borders. If they support Trump, They support his blocking that bill........ and that means they have no right to complain about the border or Biden. They are all obstructive to getting things done.

 

Sorry but america is not the only place inhabited by people.

 

Name his policies that aren’t liberal outside of border and judges and taxes.

 

Same here, that was the main issue I and most Conservatives had with it..

 

Me? No... it should bother YOU. You're the one who believes that Trump has principles. Now you know that he doesn't. He will NOT move a finger to pass any of the policies you expect. Because he has NO principles. Just like he wanted to repeal Obamacare before, but now claims that this was a "lie" Biden has spread, why would he make any effort to solve the border problems, or.... any of the other promises for which you are voting for him.

He will do the same as last time: benefit billionaires. The rest will be finding ways to perpetuate himself in power because that's the only way he can stay out of jail. But votes will not help him do that.... so why would he bother?

I'm not talking about "defendable" or not. I'm just citing it as an example demonstrating the fact that his statements change ONLY when he might find a way to benefit HIM. But he has NO conviction of his own for any of it. Just like he has no conviction when he talks about religion, or about patriotism.... or any of those things. He says whatever he thinks will benefit him in the ballots. He won't lift a finger to do anything unless it benefits him directly. Immigration, healthcare, religion, ... take your pick... he doesn't care... You are only deluding yourself if you think he does.

 

Fine. Because he has none. This thread is for those who believe that Trump, if elected, will do ANYTHING other than benefitting his fellow billionaires and looking for some way to stay out of prison when he leaves office. And the ONLY way he would achieve that is to get rid of or democratic Republic by perpetuating himself in power. If you're ok with that, then this thread was not intended for you. However, if that DOES happen, be prepared to accept your part of the responsibility for the consequences.

 

That's two strikes. Trump is not supporting Obamacare, and he is against only a federal ban on abortions because, as the SCOTUS ruled, abortion is none of the federal government's business.

 

It doesn't bother you or me, so, you're wrong again.

Trump's position on abortion is clear and articulated. How about yours?

Are you completely opposed to partial birth abortion?

 

Changing positions only because some focus group analysis says you're going to lose votes if you don't means you don't have a position. Passing legislation to enact a position is hard work. Trump has no position about ANYTHING. Which means he has no reason to bother making the effort.

 

The 7-time party switcher never has had a political ideology of his own. He’s always adopted the political philosophy of whatever party he belonged to at the time. When it comes to political beliefs, Trump is an empty suit. Trump pretended to be a conservative. What conservative ideals or values did he accomplish or put into place during his tenure as president. Cutting taxes is about the only thing and that was done and pushed through by republicans in congress with Trump just being a bystander. He has also run a lot of life long traditional conservatives out of the party.


Trump is for Trump, not any conservative ideals or values. Trump is loyal only to Trump, not conservatism in any shape or form. He’ll throw anyone under the bus whose no loyal to him. Trump stands for Trump, not the Republican Party nor any form of traditional conservatism. Which make those who follow Trump also devoid of any political ideology, philosophy or conservative ideals and values.

 

He said that it was a "lie" by Biden, and he was not against a federal ban before his focus group told him he would lose votes. These positions are just examples of the well-known fact that Trump has NO principles. These are just examples that demonstrate the fact. But the same could be said to anybody expecting Trump to have principles about religion, or immigration, or strengthening the military, or... ANYTHING. A President NEEDS principles to make the effort to pass any sort of legislation you were expecting him to pass. Since he has none, you can be sure that, if elected, his four years in office will be used to forward the ONLY principle he has: benefitting Donald Trump. And since votes won't matter anymore (he can't be re-elected), pleasing his voters isn't on his radar any longer.

If you elect Trump, you will be electing a pseudo-President who will spend four years trying to find ways to profit from the presidency, and to stay out of prison once his term is up. And the ONLY way I see by which he could stay out of prison would be to perpetuate himself in power. So his time will be spent 100% doing that.

 

Who the heck he ever thought seriously about repeal and replace Obamacare?
He never had a plan.
But it was big and it was beautiful. Just no details.

And it never happened. Because he never had any intention of ending it.

Most voters have always know his charade.
MAWA voters won't usually care what he does. As long as he speaks their language.
And those 2 issues are not their language.
I think he's reverting back to his core democrat principles.

 

You vote for and support a liberal?
2X? Will you make it 3X?

At least he's not female.

 

I know it doesn't you. It wouldn't bother you even if he stood in the middle of 5th Avenue and shot somebody. So aren't you actually wasting your time here? You already have a pre-established dogma to answer EVERYTHING: "I'll support Trump no matter what!". Or, put in a more illustrative way "If Trump says it's Kool-Aid, I will drink it without hesitation, and feed it to my children!"

I have a list of posters that I rarely respond to because nothing Trump does bothers them No offense, but I'm sure you understand that there are better ways to use one's time.

 

Odd how a 3X married sex assault perpetrator can be the darling of fundamentalist christians?

Oh, it was because he was going to end abortion. Gay people. Trans people. And the rainbow.

 

Actually I only voted for him once but I’m not surprised you’re lack of knowledge about me given your history of ASSumptions.

 

The 2x impeached has been a life long member of that club you posted about, "captured bureacucracy that rules from outside the confines of public oversight (and has been trying to toss him in prison)".

That's how he basically stayed in business for all those years. Running the gov't from the outside. At least those he could buy.
There's no way he wants to change it, except to make it easier for people like him.

He was incompetent. Failed the country in handling covid.
Never took responsibility.
Always pointed fingers to others.

IN general, the worst leader traits there are. And his incompetence showed it.

 

LOL! You are just redefining what you BELIEVE his position is based on Fox News spin, because they are afraid that laws like the one just pushed through in Arizona is going to cost Trump the election. In reality, Trump couldn't care less about abortion, he has just been using it in the past to get the pro-life crowd all riled up.

 

His picture is attached to the definition of Narcissist in the dictionary.

 

IIUC, you think Trump is going to oppress us under a military dictatorship. That seems a rather silly notion, given that Trump is the candidate not trying to disarm The People's ability to resist and overthrow said military dictatorship. I actually am "prepared to accept my part of the responsibility" to alter or to abolish your supposed Trump (or anyone's) military dictatorship, and to institute new government. Are you?