Five killed in mass stabbing at Sydney's Bondi Junction

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  1. truth and justice

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    Lol at what point of time would a passenger have shot a hijacker? The hijackers took over the cockpit first on each of the planes
     
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    Weird how these Topics go wildly Off Topic!
     
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    Yeah! Sorry mate! Got distracted dropping carrots in front of rabbit holes
     
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    There needs to be some kind of union for those who sell themselves when they get old and lose their customers.
     
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    I appreciate the OP's pro-gun thread. If those people were packing heat, they would not be dead right now.
    point proven
    Good Job OP!
    Donald is proud of you
     
  8. Lewis Edward Smith

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    Did anyone tell you the nearest police officer would be 10 miles away. Here in Austin, there is areas that have no police all day long. They tell you to not even bother to call 911.
     
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    Yes I’m aware that the terrorists would have been armed as well. But here you go assuming that people would not defend themselves. People given the opportunity to choose to live will fight for life. One plane was taken down by passengers that were not armed. I guarantee if all passengers were armed every one of the planes would either have not been hijacked at all or none would have reached their target.

    people can operate a gun if they’re crazy, cripple, or drunk. They too will fight for their own life. You seriously think people are pathetic. I don’t understand your take on people at all. I thank god have more faith in humanity. I know my fellow Americans would have stopped 9-11 if they were armed. There is no way in hell it would have ever happened.
     
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    So how was it that the passengers of the unarmed planes were able to do just that? If they done it the others would have done it armed as well.
     
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    You “get” that banning all guns virtually stopped hijacking’s right? So if there are no hijackings then people don’t HAVE to defend themselves right? I mean prevention IS better than cure.
     
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    Apropos of nothing
     
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    You know there have been at least five Aussies posting on this thread and not one of them has echoed that statement. In fact we all have the same basic response “thank goodness that he did not have a gun”.
     
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    Because back in the day it was easy to get into the cockpit of a plane now not so easy
     
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    Those people already heard the fate of the other 3 hijacked planes
     
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    Of course not! They don't like to admit any flaws in their system. Why the heck do you think Aussies on here are obsessed with American politics more than their own? I am grateful to them though. They keep proving it isn't the "gun's" fault. Do they have a left wing party over there? If so, i'm sure they are protesting to get knives banned as we speak!
     
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    Are you another one of the Australians who want the USA to adopt the nanny state gun bans of your country.
     
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    I an asserting some people watched Goldfinger under the influence, one too many times
     
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    So- if you die by stabbing, will you be glad you weren't shot by a gun?

    By the way, the survival rate from a stabbing wound is lower than the survival rate of a gunshot wound.

    I'm Pro-gun. I am also Anti-violence, and strongly against violence with weapons.
    These are not in conflict at all, because I believe violent people ARE the real weapon behind all violent crimes. Guns or anything used to facilitate the attacks- are just tools.

    There are many mass murders in history that killed hundreds even thousands with edged weapons. Knives, swords, spears, bow and arrows. As guns didn't exist, they were the state of the art in weaponry.

    This is true because what I said is true- People, not guns, commit murder. They did so long before guns- and even before knives. Every person is armed; fists and feet kill more people than all the rifles, shotguns and long guns put together.

    However, of all weapons, the only one that makes a weaker person capable of defending themselves from a stronger one- is the gun.

    This is how your female police officer was able to take down a crazed knife murderer without having to draw a knife herself, and physically engage him. IF one of the 6 people killed or the others who were injured had been armed at that incident and courageous enough to use it- it could well be that the only person to die that day would have been the killer.

    Yes, guns are powerful weapons. They can be used to kill, and they can be used to protect. IF you don't want the responsibility that comes with that and the training it requires, you shouldn't have one. But if you don't, you rely on either the police- which will usually arrive well after you are attacked, or your own physical capacity to defend yourself. So long as there are threats to life, there will have to be weapons. What matters is who has them. You don't disarm criminals with law- you disarm them with force. People who aren't criminals pose no threat, and laws should focus on those that do.

    We perpetuate the violence by pretending the guns are the source of violence, rather than the criminal. Violence is the result of personality and mental factors in certain people. Until we address that, it will continue- and while the choice of weapons may change over time, the violence will remain. It was true before weapons even existed.
     
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    The 9-11 hijackings were done with box cutters. You really do t know the history you speak of.
     
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    They kept them at bay with box cutters. They could have easily prevented 9-11 if everyone had guns. That doesn’t change a thing.
     
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    And those other three would have been far different if the populace on the planes were not sheep and had the tools to become the wolves
     
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    Please answer my question...
     
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    Lol at you moving the goalposts you set up
     
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