Russia issues furious warning after Ukraine aid bill.

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  1. Heartburn

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    Biden was his second and he likes to portray himself as having an active role in Administration policies and actions.
     
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    ..sorry not sure what you mean?
     
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    I believe I got a response in the wrong conversation, sorry.

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    And in 3 or 6 months time the begging bowl will be thrust under our noses again for just a few more billion.
     
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    You REALLY equate Trump's relatively closed border with Biden's wide open border? Really? WOW/ Look at the numbers!
     
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    Seems you are the one whom google translation does not help? I thought that they gave lessons on English in Georgia.
     
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    I was unaware that Putin's tool, Viktor Yanukovych, ever requested assistance from anyone to resist Putin's seizing Ukrainian land.

    Why would he? He was Putin's tool.
     
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    As rightwing Congressman Chip Roy noted, millions of illegal immigrants entered the u.S. during the sexual abuser's years in office.

    Trump worshipers can't deal with Republicans' killing a major border security bill because progress was not in the Loser's personal interests, and actually believe the sexual abuser when he blatantly lies to them about building a wall that solved the problem:

     
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    How many millions?
     
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    it might be better not thinking of Ukraine as a charity case rather an opportunity....a case study if you will for future war....seeing Ukraine and being involved with their forces and officer corps and the intelligence that comes from this conflict. THis is something US forces will need to know and need to equip for and train for. You MIC will need to adapt and re-equip.
    The world is changing round you and the US sitting hoping it will pass you by....well....good luck with that....
     
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    So what? Friends don't let friends get killed or conquered by naZis.
     
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    Yep, it's an opportunity to have an experienced security and military partner right on Russia's border, an economic opportunity for future investments and returns, and an immediate opportunity to dissuade China from doing something really stupid and economically damaging to us and every friend and ally of ours with Taiwan. All for the low, low price of some old military hardware we were going to dispose of anyway and a few billion dollars that will come back to us with interest and dividends in years to come.
     
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    The Ukrainians routinely refer to the Russians as "orcs."
     
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    I speak good English...visko.

    As far as you're concerned....ESL is way over your head. I suggest you learn Mandarin....your Chino bosses will require it.
     
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    I think the US studies war and learns and there is American blood in pretty much every conflict in the world. What we may need to consider is our political leadership. What Obama said about not underestimating Biden's ability to f### things up can apply to many others. The world is a dangerous place today
     
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    This hasn't cost the US much at all...older equipment slated for decommissioning now is slaughtering RuZzians on an industrial scale....while no NATO boots on the ground as of yet.:)
     
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    That is happening and will continue to happen. Please recall the "revolution in military affairs" of the 1980's. In our time the USMC is being completely remade. Etc etc.
     
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    Fighting the one corrupt tater by funding another corrupt dictator isn't really a good idea. I understand you can't wanting to be independent from Russia, but they have to be better. Zilinsky's government is not better than Putin's. I don't think this conflict is going to end well for anyone involved.
     
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    Probably not....both had a demographic crisis before this mess started....this will exacerbate it that much more.

    This is Russias illusion of grandeur...which won't end well.
     
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    Right? We give them some HIMARS and they decimate Z command centers, airfields, ammo dumps, troop formations, etc. I can't wait to see what havoc the F-16 wreaks in their hands.
     
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    Zelensky is a former comedian who was democratically elected president, not a former KGB officer who has been in power for over two decades. There is no comparison.
     
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    Almost everything you can say bad about Russia you can say about Ukraine.

    I think the only reason why we're on the Ukraine side is because Russia seeks to destabilize the dollar as world currency. China and Iran wish to do the same thing.

    The more money we print the lower the value goes and the more strength Russia has to destabilize the dollar.

    The best thing we can do is focus really strong and hard I'm not just reducing inflation but maybe even a little deflation. This will go further to protect Ukraine than giving them increasingly less valuable dollars as they exhaust themselves.
     
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    I hope its not too late.

    Russian troll farms at at full swing trying to convince the world its a bad thing
     
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    The US is not just sitting by at all. The UxV ("drone") warfare is a good example. We are monitoring that closely. The data is being analyzed in detail by the "Center for Lessons Learned" at Ft Leavenworth. The conclusions are being integrated into the scenarios played out at Fort Irwin, Fort Polk and Twenty-Nine Palms. Ultimately, the results will change US military doctrine in significant ways. UxV's is only one element of study from Ukraine that is being processed this way.
     
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    The M1 tanks we sent are top of the line. So are the MLRS variants (HIMARS), Patriot PAC-3's, Javelins and more. The Stingers are slated to be phased out with a new system and Bradley's days may be numbered, but just about everything else is top of the line... not "slated for decommissioning" at all.
     

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