Arizona Grand Jury Indicts Donald Trump Allies, 11 Fake Electors

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  1. Ddyad

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    They don't have to point out the obvious. Trump's savvier enemies are criticizing all this clumsy obvious political persecution for helping Trump and the RP.

    “Stewart then declared that the media’s “very first attempt” at self-control had “failed.” He then proceeded to poke fun at the way that multiple outlets focused on interviews with dismissed jurors and attempted to find deeper meaning behind Trump’s expressions in courtroom sketches.
    “Why are you showing it to us? It’s a sketch. Why would anyone analyze a sketch?” he asked. “It’d be like looking at The Last Supper and going, ‘Why do you think Jesus looks so sad here? What do you think, it’s 'cause of Judas? What if we interview one of the waiters at one of the tables from like a different section of the restaurant, who maybe didn’t actually see him, but we’ve got time to kill.'” He later bluntly added, “What the f--- are we doing?”
    ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY, Jon Stewart skewers media over Trump trial coverage: 'What the f--- are we doing?' "It’s the first day of the first of [Trump’s] 438 trials to come. Pace yourselves.”, By Emlyn Travis Published on April 23, 2024 12:05PM EDT.
    https://ew.com/jon-stewart-skewers-media-trump-trial-coverage-8637471

    When will they ever learn?
     
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    The only President (so far) that has had more criminal activity in his administration was Nixon...but as the indictments keep pouring in, followed by the inevitable convictions, Trump will lay claim to the worst President in my lifetime....and I'm probably older than you are.
     
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    I actually think you are right but I think Senile Joe and his dildo loving son are going to get the short end of the stick
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    You want to pretend that is all that matters. carter didn't get indicted (he should have for his threats to the Olympians) but his impact on the USA was far worse than Nixon or any others till Biden. How many people were actually hurt by say Iran-Contra versus the incompetence of Carter (such as the Iranian Hostages and a misery index over TWENTY)
     
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    Well if that's all you're going to go by

    1 MILLION dead Americans from COVID, mostly because of the sheer incompetent handling by the Trump administration.

    There you go, Trump is the worst president of the 20th century hands down.
     
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    that's complete and utter bullshit. the covid deaths cannot be attributed to Trump. why don't you tell us what he should have done. many of the alleged covid deaths were lies-for example John Prine-the famous singer had terminal lung cancer and he was listed as a covid victim.

    Carter and Biden are far worse and you're not even aware that Trump didn't serve in the Twentieth Century
     
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    Why don't go we through all of your posts and find the ones where you made a silly typo/mistake and then try to say it's because you weren't aware of the obvious mistake.

    You do realize that even if you have terminal lung cancer....something else can kill you. Furthermore, Prine did NOT have terminal cancer when he died. He had surgery for cancer in 1998 and again in 2013. There is nothing to indicate he had cancer in 2020 when he died from complications from COVID

    Furthermore ONE example (which I have just shown to be false anyway) of a death listed from COVID that wasn't actually COVID is not proof that "many covid deaths were lies"
     
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    people were encouraged to fudge reports and claim they were covid. Two people I know had advanced COPD and were in hospice and were listed as dying from covid. It was complete bullshit.

    I am waiting for you to say what Trump should have done-based on the information AT THE TIME that would have 1) not hurt the economy any more than it was harmed 2) and would have markedly decreased the "deaths from covid". I also want you to explain under the tenth amendment what powers Trump had versus state governors
     
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    NOT promote many of the quack theories he promoted would have been a good start
     
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    They were “encouraged”? Who did that? How did they do that?
     
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    I don't see anything that remotely answers my question. of course I wasn't expecting anything. For eight years I have seen lefties whine about Trump and they have an almost universal inability to actually cite objective harm Trump visited upon them
     
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    Oh the alternate electors had Trump won any last minute challenges after the EC voting date and their votes would had to already have been cast therefore could have been counted?
     
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    Huh?
     
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    You do know how the EC works don't you?
     
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    Of course. When did you take English as a foreign language classes?
     
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    I think they already are. They've been playing weekend at Biden's for the past 4 years now. SOMEONE is in charge, but I couldn't tell you who and THAT is power right there.
     
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    The first thing he will do is lean on Arizona government ignoring the reservations being ground zero for human trafficking and drugs. Phoenix is the main distribution point for the west coast and the state authorities used to go after it, but now they don't. Someone is getting paid. The minute a tribe ships child prostitutes off reservation land they are under state jurisdiction. You would never know it.
    The second thing is go after their gambling operations. Money skimming is a family value, but the state ignores the taxes they are losing because Indian Casino's are a money tree for politicians.
    Meanwhile Indians are dying from lack of medical care and addiction counseling on the reservations.
     
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    You do know how the EC works?

    Then you should know why it was necessary for the alternate electors to have cast their votes and recorded them. Can you demonstrate such knowledge?
     
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    *snicker* Every court in the country disagrees with you, but keep pounding that square peg into a round hole. Does reality *ever* intrude into the equation for you?
     
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    They were NOT "alternate" electors. They were FAKE electors. No state government recognized them. To be a legitimate elector you have to have the blessings of the state government. Even if you are only an "alternate". They had NONE. They tried to pass themselves off as the "duly elected and qualified" electors from their respective states. THIS WAS A LIE.
     
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    Won’t everyone have immunity?
     
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    All part of the scheme, if Pence had delivered, who knows where we would be now
     
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    I like to think that the courts would have saved our asses. There’s so little validity to the false electors scheme that it would not have passed muster.
     
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    I agree. My only fear is that Pence would have bounced those electors back to the state legislatures and the Republican controlled ones would have confirmed with Trump.
    Plus we are now seeing the glacial pace at which our courts move. How long would we have to fight it out?
     
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    I challenge you to watch Trump's "Gettysburg Address" and then get back to me on who is actually the senile one.
     
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