You have yet to come up with a defensible argument for your "unborn baby" theory. The only significant difference between a zygote cell and other human cells is that the DNA in the zygote has the programming to create a human enabled. Every cell has the information to create a human coded within the DNA .. it is just not active. What is so wrong with terminating the program before a baby is created ?
What's funny is that you don't even realize that you're actually refuting your own argument here. Instead of trying to blur the line between the two to show that they are the same and thus equally dispensable, you're highlighting what makes them different from one another and what ultimately what makes one human even from the earliest stages of development. Go back and re-read your argument and see if you can find where you're shooting yourself in the foot.
Please recognize the difference between "A human" (noun) and "human" (adjective). The earliest stages of development are "human" (adjective), quite dispensable, and have only the value the pregnant woman assigns to it.
Yes, I know. Just as black people only had the value that white people assigned to them during slavery. We've covered the subjective value of life thing already. The people who hold authority determine what is valuable. Does this make it okay is the question.
A tumor is human. A tumor is not a human. A lung is human. A lung is not a human. A fetus is human. A fetus is not a human.
SOMEBODY determines the value. Why should it be you? You want to determine that a clump of cells dictates the next 18 years of a woman's life. Seems only fair that the woman who houses the clump of cells determines the value.
to the OP, with respect to your heading "Is abortion really that bad?" When I find an adult who had been aborted I will ask them and report back
So tumors and lungs left untampered with will consistently and naturally develop into fully autonomous intelligent beings then? If we're going to play the clump of cells game, technically a full grown human is just as much a clump of cells. And somebody determines the value of that clump of cells as well. Why should it be you? Because you identify with it? Any human life can be dehumanized. If you don't want to see someone as a human being, you won't. You'll choose not to. That's how our country, "the land of the free," was able to sleep at night while we were treating blacks like disposable farm equipment. Because we determined that they were not people.
And, Makedde, if someone murders you that doesn't really effect me either so why should I care? As to whether abortion is good or bad, it depends, as do many things, whether you're the perpetrator or the victim, doesn't it?
You seem to have a different definition of tamper. You also seem to have a different definition of fall. I've been with some loose women in my time but never have I met one so loose as to have fetuses falling out of her crotch.
If someone murders me it affects my family and friends, as well as society as a whole. The death of a fetus affects no one but the people who knew it existed.
Same thing with a murder. A murder in China does not affect me personally. It affects someone, which is why it matters. I don't see any logic in your theory, other than an abortion affects less people.
Abortion doesn't harm society though, and that is the point we are trying to make. Murder affects society, even those people who don't know the victim. How many times have you opened the paper and read about the murder of someone? You form an opinion, want the killer to be punished. You have been affected by the murder of a person you don't even know. With abortion, the same cannot be said.
Abortion is a crime (a little human being is killed). What if our mothers would think/decide to make an abortion while being pregnant with us?
If my mother had chose to abortion me I wouldn't be here to have an opinion on the issue, and therefore wouldn't have been affected by it.
How sad that you can not see how the violence within a woman has affected her...and all society. Women committing violent crime & imprisioned has increased with legalized abortion...as well as crimes against women. Child abuse has skyrocketed - why? Well if unborn babies are disposable, it is not a big step to children born alive are considered disposable as well.
Being aborted is not being affected. Being unaware of your own existence and dying doesn't affect you.
It is enormous pain suffered by the little human being (try informing more about the abominable act of abortion). You seem to be against life generally, or only against human beings life, while you say that "your mother aborting you" is no problem ... As it is very well known, people, who do not want a child, can avoid such crimes very easy, by using a condom, or better, by not having sex too often ...
