Is homosexuality a choice or not?

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Is homosexuality a choice?

  1. Yes, homosexuality is always a choice, 100% of the time.

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  2. No, Homosexuality is never a choice.

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  3. Sometimes, It can be a choice but can also be something born into the person

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  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    I want to know everyones' opinions on the this....
     
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    Sometimes. I believe that some people are born either heterosexual or homosexual, others may lie a little closer to center. By other, I mean both heterosexuals and homosexuals.
     
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    I don't actually care as I don't think it's the most important argument for gay rights.
    I think pedophiles are genetically predisposed to be pedophiles-- doesn't mean they should be given free access to children.
    The difference is that homosexual relations are between consenting adults and no one is hurt.

    I said "some."
    The studies I remember suggest that men are generally "hardwired" one way or the other, while women are more adaptable and "wired" to seek out traits based on socialization.
    I also think socialization is virtually impossible to separate from genetics and a very powerful force.
    (For clarity: socialization in this case does not refer to "being taught"; it just means experiential factors changed someone in some way, either directly or indirectly)

    But I don't think it's important.
    Even if it is a conscious choice (which I think is a rare occurrence, if ever), who cares?
    Who does it hurt?
    No one.
     
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    Heterosexual males should see if they can choose to insert their penis into the anus of another male, getting it creamed with the man's feces. It is quite an impossible choice: your basic instincts would prevent you from doing it, it would be just so revolting.
     
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    personally, I beleive that rape should be a captial offense and commiting pedophilia should be classifed as rape. But homosexuality between two consenting adults has nothing to do with that.
     
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    The question is WHY aren't the two related?

    Genetic predisposition is the way in which they are connected, and thus it's not a good argument for anything. People waste too much time on it.

    The real reason for the argument isn't about politics but religion. Some Christians cannot believe that something that is a sin is hardwired into some people, so they must believe it is a choice.
    No amount of arguing will change that.

    When it comes to law, we should focus on whether or not a behavior is a threat.
    If a behavior is genetically predisposed that's a good rationale for mercy in court, not a reason for innocence.

    The argument for the innocence of homosexuals is that they don't harm anyone!
     
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    What is known as bisexual. And is said that women tend to be bisexual. No basis of that. Just a said.
     
  8. Daggdag

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    In Greek culture, homosexuality was common. So was incest in some cases. It was not seen as revolting. Therefore, your claim that it is natual to find homosexuality revolting has been debunked years before you are even born.
     
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    From a legal standpoint, consenting adults having gay sex is not related to the rape of children because of the fact that they are adults.
     
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    Why must you know everyone's opinion? Having issues?
     
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    I want to know everyone's opinions because it's impossible to make an educated decision on an issue without seeing all possible point of views on that issue.
     
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    Homosexuality is certainly a choice. I don't know any scientists that have proven that you can be born homosexual.
     
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    No. Not in the sense that I think it's necessarily genetic, it's likely an environmental effect that occurs very early on and can't really be changed unless you go through some extensive therapy, and even that probably won't take away all of those emotional feelings.
     
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    I don't mean to sound stupid or show disrespect, but I've wondered about this before. If people are born homosexual, does that mean that one of their parents had the "gay gene" or something? Do straight people carry the gene?
     
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    It's not genetic in the since that it can be passed down through a family, but there can be a hormonal inbalance that causes peopple to be attracted to the opposit sex...It is the same type of inbalance that can cause pedophila and other sexual disorders.
     
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    I have no opinion... because a persons private life is their own.

    When it becomes a public debate and a minority receives special privileges because they're a special interest group, then I'm all against it.
     
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    Republicans make it a public debate because they want to make it a federal law that marriage be between a man and woman. They want to base US law on their personal religious beliefs and completely ignore the religious and human rights of other people.
     
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    The left also makes it an issue. Marriage by definition WAS the joining of a man and woman to procreate. The left has changed that definition to achieve the benefits afforded by the state through marriage. Eliminate the state benefits and there wouldn't be a problem.
     
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    In some cases homosexuality is a symptom of a personality disorder.
     
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    No scientists have proven it's a choice either. Just becasue one cause hasn't been proven doesn't automatically make an alternative cause a certainty.

    It's very simply to test though, all you have to do is choose to be homosexual, just temporarily. Give it a go and see if it works. :cool:
     
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    Wow. A thread from 2011.

    Coming from a small city in a conservative state, those who are counter culture can't be choosy in acquaintances. You tend to know everyone who parties, and a lot of gay people party, so I have the benefit of knowing dozens.

    This is the one faulty argument for the gay cause. Fact is, choice is what should be protected, but globalists want to be able to regulate choice. So they've created this false debate to justify the hypocrisy of a protected class.

    The truth:
    - I know tons of gay people who only go after straight people because they love trying to convert them.
    - Tons of straight girls go to prison and come out lesbians.
    - People are born with abnormal libidos and no conservative judgments in their upbringings. If there was a "born argument", it would be an argument for born deviance - period.
    - The proportion of homosexuals who are victims of sexual abuse as children is astronomical. To act as if the 3% of homosexuals are organic to begin with is dishonest intellectualism.

    The only reason why this is a topic is because, like many things in our society, the collective conscious has to tap dance around globalist programming.

    It is a choice, and a perfectly fine one. It's their life.
     
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    Some of what you say is true. That said, it isn't always a choice. The biggest fallacy of this debate is that it has be one or the other.
    My sister tried to engage in a heterosexual relationship with 3 different great guys that remain friends with her to this day. She fought her natural attraction to women for years out of fear. Finally our family figured it out and she realized it was ok. Through her, I have met and have friendships with many homosexuals of both sexes. It isn't always a choice.
     
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    A more important question: who cares?
     
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    I have met a few who are the same. But they are the unicorns. And they could be the ones who don't want to talk about it. The closer I got to them all, the reoccurring theme was some sort of unsolicited sexual experience early in life. Though it was never brought up in reference to their sexuality, some other subject would stir out the fact, and one can't help but notice. And it's not like academia could conduct an honest study on any politicized subject. It's simply not a question you ask people as it reeks of an attempt to trivialize. So not sure we will ever know.

    While I don't believe anyone should be victimized for a life choice, I find all the appeals for normalcy to be very weak. Scientifically, it seems to be a goulash of disorders, psychological conditions, unorthodox child rearing, abnormal libidos, and anything else under the sun. Basically, gay isn't a way of life that exists unto itself, but is more of a common outcome for those who don't fit in socially, whether the result is an internal fear or an external reality.
     
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    Show me the homosexual dna.
     

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