Poll: Most blame Obama for economy

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  1. Buzz62

    Buzz62 New Member

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    His responsibility...not his fault.
    For those of us who got past grade 9...there is a difference...

    BTW...
    Are you actually saying a liberal can't be an American?
     
  2. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Obama NEVER had a Supermajority. Period.
     
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    You said nothing since you avoided the fact that Obama and the democrats had a super majority for 2 years
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry but 60 + 67 = 127
    100% is the largest number one can use.
    Here's how it works Independents are asked who deserves blame for the
    current Economic condition.
    You CANNOT ask seperately what % of Independents blame Bush
    and what % Blame Obama.
    Go Back and try it again.
    That doesn't even rise to the level of fuzzy math.
     
  5. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Obama NEVER had a Supermajority. Period.
     
  6. toddwv

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    Another thread based on either ignorance or a deliberate attempt to misinform by Consmike? Shocker...

    Your thread title says "most blame blame Obama for economy" which differs significantly from the results of the poll which indicate that most clearly blame Bush for the economy.
     
  7. ptif219

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    2 Independents caucused and voted with the democrats that makes 60.Until Kennedy died and they lost that seat
     
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    Of course it's worsened. You have both sides fighting for the upper hand in next years election. A Republican dominated Congress isn't going to pass anything that might give Obama credit and Obama and Democrats are going to keep putting in their jobs bill, things that will give them votes from the huge unions. They'll keep playing the Hispanic vote with immigration. Both sides care more about gaining power than trying to fix this economy and both will blame the other for it.
     
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    How else. You show more than 100%. Typical liberal fuzzy math you have learned well from Obama
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Independants are NOT Democrat. Ted Kennedy died in 8/2009.

    Lets say we choose to agree with your beliefs on what a Supermajority is. 8 months does NOT equal 2 years.

    Savvy?
     
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    That is why one of the Polls was Unscientifically used.
    You have to use a scientific approach.
    Find 100 confirmed or Registered Independents and ask one
    question.Who is to blame for the Economy and have as possibles
    either
    A} Obama
    B} Bush
    C} neither
    D } both
    or just drop C} and D}.
     
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    No one person is to blame for the mess America is in. It is pure and simple greed, -- corporate greed.
     
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    No the GOP has the house only. Reid blocks everything they pass in the senate.
     
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    Please read the readily available methodology and questions before posting such idiotic statements.

    14. Thinking about the economic problems currently facing the United States, how much do you blame – [RANDOM ORDER] for these – a great deal, a moderate amount, not much, or not at all?

    A. George Bush

    B. Barack Obama

    The answers aren't exclusive.

    Personally, I think that they should have included Congress and "Wall Street" in the mix.
     
  15. Marine1

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    Not just greed. Twice I wrote how Congress has to take major blame for this economy. I think their heart was in the right place, but not their heads. Read post #16, if I remember right. But greed surly was part of it.
     
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    You mean like this:

    8. Do you think the policies of Barack Obama and the Democrats or George W. Bush and the Republicans are more responsible for the country's current economic problems?

    Sept. 23-25
    Obama and Democrats 32%
    Bush and Republicans 52%

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/09/29/rel16g.pdf

    Do you like those results better? No? Well, apparently neither did the main stream media...
     
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    As I said, neither side is going to pass anything that gives the other side a upper hand in next years election. It's more about power than it is helping get this economy back. I blame them both.
     
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    You really need to educate yourself on politics

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/franken-gives-democrats-super-majority-1726208.html

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...cratic-supermajority-what-does-it-mean/16799/

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...cans-applaud-democrats-loss-of-supermajority/

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/05/democrats-lose-supermajority-brown-sworn/

     
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    And let guess. When Bush was in office you blamed him and Pelosi and Reid equally for the meltdown?
     
  20. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Yes,

    I guess liberals need a math lesson too.

    100%= the total amount

    53% is the majority, more than 50%. 50% is half, 53% is the marjority, and is "the most".
     
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    Polling need be done thru methodology and explained.
    It has to be random but also even-handed.I suspect if a Poll was
    conducted at the Democrat National Convention and the same question
    asked as at The Republican National Convention there would be polar opposite
    results.I suspect if a poll was conducted asking Independents in California vs. Independents from Indiana the results would also be polar.
    We DO know that this Country is basically 40% Conservative and 19%
    Liberal with Independents about 36%.Independents were a higher majority
    before the Tea Party took hold.
     
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    I have constantly blamed these people for the melt down and still do. Both sides are to blame for what happened and if you people would look back at what happened, you'd understand it. But instead your all to willing to try and put all the blame on the other side.


    "If people want to really put the blame some place, it has to go on Congress. First by putting pressure on banks to give out loans to people who couldn't afford it. Next by passing Free Trade and NAFTA with no environmental rules and no min.wage requirements. They threw the door open for thousands of companies to leave. Then put the nail in the coffin, by changing the rules that prevented banks of entering into high risk investments, that had been in place since the Great Depression and then failing to monitor them, knowing the risk of changing that law. There is where the blame needs to really go to."
     
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    I have constantly blamed these people for the melt down and still do. Both sides are to blame for what happened and if you people would look back at what happened over the years you'd understand it. But instead your all to willing to try and put all the blame on the other side. This is the third time I have posted it without one comment on what I said. You all just keep going back blaming Bush and Obama for it all and not even consider what happened.


    "If people want to really put the blame some place, it has to go on Congress. First by putting pressure on banks to give out loans to people who couldn't afford it. Next by passing Free Trade and NAFTA with no environmental rules and no min.wage requirements. They threw the door open for thousands of companies to leave. Then put the nail in the coffin, by changing the rules that prevented banks of entering into high risk investments, that had been in place since the Great Depression and then failing to monitor them, knowing the risk of changing that law. There is where the blame needs to really go to."
     
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    Yes and No.Nancy Pelosi ran on repeated calls of Bush as Incompetent.
    It was about the time Pelosi took the gavel that the Economy started it's
    downturn.Gas prices being the first indicator.Don't forget when we had
    sustained unemployment under 5 % the Democrats were doing everything
    they could to convince the Populace we were In a recession.We did get there
    when the likes of Pelosi and Barney Frank { appointed to chair Fannie & Freddie} demonstrated their ability to Really screw-up things.
    In Pelosi's first year as Speaker she basically did little besides name new
    Post Offices.
     
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