3 Australian Soldiers Murdered

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  1. spud4444

    spud4444 New Member

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    3 Australian soldiers were murdered by an "Afagan National Army" soldier. Is it time we leave? How can our relation with ANA ever be rebuilt with trust?
     
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    It was time to leave 11 years ago
     
  3. moon

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    It can't be. Leave Afghans to run Afghanistan. Oz has its own domestic problems without sending its boys to be diversionary targets for NATO invaders.
     
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    That's what happens to soldiers when invading another country.

    Afghans are unconquerable. Genghis with his Mongolian Horde//The Persians/Alexander Great /Ashok-Gupta empire/ The Turks/Russians/British (twice) - ALL FAILED , even the Arabs just barely managed to introduce Islam in an effort to tame the Afghans - that was all the Arabs managed to do.

    ALL THOSE WHO ENTER AFGHANISTAN DO SO AT THEIR PERIL.


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    3,000 americans were murdered at the time when the US was not invading any country... Oh yeah, it was not about an invasion then, the US foreign policy was not in line with the demands of the terrorists hiding in Afghanistan so those murders were just as justified in your eyes as the murders of these Australian soldiers are now.

    PS for the record the war in Afghanistan is conducted under the auspices of your beloved UN so you have nothing to complain about.
     
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    maybe they thought they would surrender like the aborigines
     
  7. moon

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    You mean that the US was between invasions ?
     
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    10 TIMES MORE yemenis (Jihadists) have been Killed in Afgan conflict than Aussies .
     
  9. Marlowe

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    The 9/11 victims were'nt ALL AMERICANS , were they ? Besides -

    according to the perpetrators - the 3,000 were , Twin Towers was the target , the 3,000 was , as US media would say "COLLATERAL DAMAGE "

    Those carried out the attack probably deemed it in retaliation to US Middle East Policies, iddentifying America as their enemy, hence , according to them, a legitimate target.

    Remember , Hiroshima - Nagasaki + many more ? ----- that's what happens , innocent civilians get caught in the crossfire.

    btw Bo-Rat - I can tell you're Jewish , - always ready to play the "victim" ----- Hahahahah LOL



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    Do you really care abt Yemenis ?
     
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    You support the people who executed people in a full stadium, rejected voting, and rejected woman rights.

    Seems you support any group as long as it is anti western.
     
  12. Marlowe

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    Aint got NOWT to do with us what Afghans/Hindus/Congolese/Irishmen/Hispanics , etc, choose to do to each other.
    AS James bond might have said - Live and let Die


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    So let a minority of people dominate the majority because they are extremely violent intimidating and oppressive?

    Right.
     
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    Look around you - look in the mirror - Its happening all the time.

    Your govt . has been fighting a loosing battle .


    btw more innocent civilians have been killed in gang violence/robberies etc., in america than soldier in Afghanistan.





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    What you've posted is not true.
     
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    Prove it .


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    The Afghans were conquered on a number of occasions. No one is ten feet tall.

    1. The Afghans were conquered by the Macedonians under Alexander. They established the Bactrian Kingdom which existed for centuries.

    2. The Afghans were once Buddhists, Hindus and Zoroastrians. They were conquered by a mixed Arab/Persian force that imposed a new religion on them.

    3. The Afghans were conquered by the Mongols and became part of the Ilkanate that only fell to Timur. The Hasara people of Afghanistan are descended from the Mongols.

    4. The Afghans were conquered by Timur who established a dynasty.

    5. The Afghans were conquered by the British in the Second Anglo-Afghan War and Afghanistan became part of the Raj.

    6. The Afghans were on the way to being conquered by the Soviets until intervention by Saudi money and American weapons turned the tide.

    No one is invincible. No one.
     
  19. Albert Di Salvo

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    If the British hadn't conquered much of Afghanistan they would not have been in a position to play the Great Game with Tsarist Russia.
     
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    Actually, the US was in Iraq before the 2001 9-11 attck.
     
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    You can’t trust any Middle East country. They will stab you in the back and slit your throat in a New York heartbeat. If they could get away with it; they would attack the United States and try and nuke Europe.
     
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    We are in this war for our allies and no other reason. Losing anyone sucks, but these men are soldiers, perfectly aware of the risks of their job. One rogue Afghan soldier doesn't mean anything. We have lost 32 men in (is it 9 years?) in Afghanistan. Compare that to 40,000 deaths in WW2 when our population was about 1/4 of the size it is now. We are there to do our bit, like the rest of NATO. If the intention of NATO was to 'conquer' Afghanistan, America could have achieved that on it's own relatively quickly and relatively easily. But of course the point of the war is basically the complete opposite. I think the Afghan soldiers are really not a problem, think they are perfectly capable. What's most likely to screw up the country are the politicians and the logistics/administration. Hope we stay there in a more civilian role helping them to establish democratic institutions once the troops leave.
     
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    America should irradiate all Afghan water sources, and then withdraw.
     
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    I disagree. But now that we have got HIM it's time to leave.

    We just can't trust the Pakis anymore, as they are full of treachery and deceipt.
     
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    I disagree with some of your statement. The way you said this suggests that you can't trust any people in the Middle East. This goes for countries as well - (remember that there are alot of them and it's not fair to judge all of them based on the actions of other countries and groups). If this is what you mean, it is clearly incorrect as there are people who want "this all to end". There are people, such as civilians, who want these "bad" people brought down by the US as soon as possible so that the US can get out of their country faster. It is also important to remember that these people, "claim" to have initially retaliated to the intervention and involvement of the U.S. before the 2001 Terrorist Attacks. In the end you can trust people in the Middle East, it is just knowing who to trust and what the right actions are that should be followed by all coalition forces.
     

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