Treatment of Obama's Gaffes VS. Perry's Gaffes

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excellent point! Obviously it was not Perry's fault, it was the fault of the person for asking him a question that he could not answer. I agree, Perry should never be held responsible for his inabilities.
     
  2. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely agree. the president probably did not know their were 50 states, but Perry, who could not name the three agencies , just made a gaffe.

    You are most certainly proving your contentions regarding double standards.
     
  3. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    That's only partially true. The mainstream thinks generally that anyone from the south is stupid; they have an Ivy-League snobish attitude about things. However they DO make certain exceptions. Texas former Governor played up her Texas talk for all it's worth....much more of a Texas talker than Perry........and they LOVED her.
    It's always about politics. And it's snobery. Libs are generally elitists.
     
  4. Pro Deus Et Patria

    Pro Deus Et Patria New Member

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    So, your response is a theory on what would happen in a hypothetical situation?

    As for PBS, yes they did change the transcript to reflect what was said. Did you read your blog article you posted?

    And tell me again how my belief that people on BOTH sides of the political spectrum perceive the OTHER side to get a pass is "more proof" that "the double standard is alive and well?"
     
  5. JP5

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    Are you kidding? Fox has blasted Perry too. Some there have also pronounced him dead.....which is what I was complaining about earlier. I think they have forgotten the passes Obama got and don't see what's happened here.

    No. I don't expect a bias for my favored candidate. It would be kind of nice, though, to have some consistency in treatment. It's the double standard I complain about. If Obama's gaffes are too be treated with great deference towards Obama.....we need them to be consistent. And not go after one ont hem simply because he's a conservative and the other one isn't. If it were not for Fox, however, it would be like it used to be.....a 100% monopoloy for liberals.
     
  6. JP5

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    So....answer these two questions:

    1) Do you think Rick Perry has gotten a pass from the mainstream on his verbal gaffes?
    2) Do you think Obama got a pass from the mainstream on his verbal gaffes?

    These are simply yes/no questions.
     
  7. JP5

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    So, you think it FAIR that when a candidate has stated once they can't remember that the commenator should hound him and ask it twice more? It seemed to me that commentator wanted more than the 15 secons it would have been had he not sought to prolong it.

    Geez. IF ONLY some mainstream reporter had cornered Obama in 2008 and asked him over and over again 1) how many states does he think we have, and 2) AND MAKE him explain how he could make such a mistake. But alas, I guess none of them thought it approprate to dwell on such a mistake or make him out to be even more foolish and stupid.

    He was just tired; grueling schedule. Yeah....that was it! :twisted:
    No such pass for Perry.
     
  8. Pro Deus Et Patria

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    I think by mainstream you mean "all media I don't like," which makes it pretty challenging for me to answer. Please understand, it is conservative media that has "bent" the definition of the word in this context to mean "everyone except media biased toward conservatives."

    In general, do I think Rick Perry got a pass? I think a lot of people in and out of media claimed he was "done" because of forgetting the third department. I think that is plainly ridiculous. I've said before that a person's campaign should live and die on their ideas and how well they resonate with the public. Forgetting something or some similar verbal gaffe does not represent some failure in leadership qualities.

    Do I think Obama got a pass on his gaffes? (*)(*)(*)(*) NO. I couldn't turn the TV or radio on without hearing about them over and over. It was boring from start to finish.

    Keep in mind, you're asking someone who has no tolerance for picking on such stupidity.

    For the national conversation to be about how someone slipped up verbally to OVERTAKE discussion of their policies is a bad mark on WE THE PEOPLE, not on media.
     
  9. JP5

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    But in just the mainstream----the major newspapers, the NYTimes, The WashingtonPost, and the major networks; ABC, CBS, NBC......how do you think the treatment of each gaffe was covered? About the same? Or very differently?

    Can you provide any examples of those listed where they did a piece on how Obama was finished because he didn't know how many states there were? Or any that said he was an idiot or implied it because of his gaffe?
     
  10. pakman012

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    Bringing up concerns of bias in the media is fine so long as you hold yourself to the same standards of fairness you would ask of them. This statement, however is quite clearly inaccurate.

    Governor Perry only stated "I don't remember" once and that was right before he said "oops" which marked the end of the exchange between him and the commentator. Once he admitted he didn't know the answer there were no further questions asked of him. The reporter did ask twice about the third agency, but Gov. Perry first misleadingly suggested that the EPA was the missing agency. When questioned on this, he admitted it wasn't but got off topic on how the EPA did need to be reformed. The commentator asked a second time for the third agency after which the Governor stumbled through some thoughts before finally admitting he could not remember.

    Evidently the media's 'unfair' coverage of Perry is enough to bother you, but misrepresenting facts to support your opinion is not.
     
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    Its because President Obama stands from an intelligent ideology so when he makes mistakes we know that he knows better

    When Perry makes a mistake we know he's truly dumb because of his ideology which is abusive to America and Americans.

    In the debate he stated he wanted to end 3 government agencies, that alone is unintelligent much less not being able to remember which ones
     
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    LOL It must suck even harder to be pigeonholed into being bothered about it? :-D
     
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    "Which ones?" Plural, huh? No, there was only one he couldn't remember and that's been stated thru out this whole thread....

    As far as your 1st statement here .... BS. Obama said on tv that the US Constitution was written 2,000 yrsw ago .... real 'intelligent' doncha think?

    He insists on calling the Corpsmen 'CORPSEMEN' and I really believe that's deliberate b/c that's insulting to them .... or he really is that stupid. A 5th grader could teach him the correct pronunciation........
     
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    it was deliberate the constitution is outdated it shouldn't be followed word for word anymore

    corpsmen can be pronounced either way that is not deliberate
     
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    This level of stupidity truly boggles the mind.
     
  16. Hummingbird

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    You need to educate yourself and check out the pronunciation of 'corpsmen'...

    There's only one other way to pronounce it and that's 'corzmen' w/the 'z' sound - absolutely not 'corpse.' You do know 'corpse' has only one meaning? Guess what it is........

    So, that's your opinion of the Constitution? Spoken like a true progressive liberal.... .. and yes, Obama's comment about it being written 2,000 yrs ago was deliberate b/c he doesn't know any better.......:twisted:

    I bet Harvard is proud of him.........
     
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    You sure got that right!
     
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    Poor little Perry getting picked on by the big bad LM.

    Conservative have now officially become liberals. Crying about every little thing. It's embarrassing. Conservatives need to man up and stop crying like little Nancy's.

    Big bunch of babies.
     
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    What are you babbling about?
     
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    Someone else who is missing the entire point; tell me, did you vote for Obama?
     
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    Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    So even though this was a great effort to defend your previous false claim that Obama's 57 states gaff still garners news, the headlines suggest something entirely different.
    Once again you are obviously incorrect; you showed how Perry was in the news again.

    Don't worry; I am painfully aware of the inability of liberals to comprehend facts, reality and the truth. Being honest is impossible for them because then they would be forced to see the farce their ideology is.

    But thank you once again for being more evidence of how someone as inept and clueless as Obama could get elected.
     
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    Wrong again; but par for the course with liberals. The Ayers story got very little play because the mainstream media was in the tank for Obama and was determined to drag his sorry inexperienced carcass across that finish line no matter what; after all, he had already been ordained.

    Much like they suppressed that Reverend Wright story.


    Obsessive emphasis on very small things is what the premise of this thread is all about. Perhaps if you went back to read and then comprehend it you wouldn't make such laughably inept comments and arguments?

    This is a fascinating example of deflection and denial; yet the BIG stories for the mainstream media today have nothing to do with substance or the mess this economy is in, but rather, the unsubstantiated claims of a few loser women against a Republican Candidate, another Republican Candidate who had a brain fart in a debate and the Kardashian divorce.

    Dude, you need to get a good long whiff of reality and hit the restart button. Did you vote for Obama by the way?
     
  23. Think for myself

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    My goodness. I did all of that? Looks to me like Obama's gaffe is still in the news. Am I incorrect?
     
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    LMAO; there you have it folks, the liberal ideology in a nutshell. Any questions?
     
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    The mainstream media intends to destroy any Republican who runs against that corksacker Obama. The media is totally in the tank for the Master of Disaster.
     

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