http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/New-Haven-Asks-State-to-Allow-Non-Citizens-to-Vote--135569598.html Imagine that, another Democrat focused on handing ILLEGAL's the same voting rights and privleges as US citizens. What a pathetic, degrading proposal. The same Democrat's who are united in their effort to stop any effort for voter ID laws now want illegals at the ballot box...legally? What a FOOLISH & STUPID path to go down!
They said that about Robert Byrd, Democrat and Klan member, and he ended up in Congress longer than anybody in history. Never underestimate what Democrats will put up with if there is a little "D" next to someone's name.
Actually, what the man is proposing is legal. A locality can give non-citizens the right to vote in local elections. A state can give non-citizens the right to vote in state elections. The article references asking a locality to give non-citizens the right to vote in local elections. This is not the same as full U.S. voting rights.
So, let me get that strait, it's illegal to be illegal, but legal to give them voting rights to vote for or against legal citizens?
There is no punishable law that illegal aliens have broken by the fact of being in the U.S. The only penalty is deportation (kicking them out of the U.S.). Any level of government can decide on it's own rules for deciding on who can vote in elections. Some cities already allow legal aliens to vote in elections. This is the same, but without asking for proof of legality. I'm not saying I'm for it, but I don't see how it is illegal.
This has nothing to do with citizenship. It has to do with voting in municipal elections. Cities are allowed to set up the standards for voting in their elections. Citizenship is not a requirement (unless their state laws say otherwise). The same goes for state elections. A state is allowed to determine it's own standards for voting in state elections. The same with the feds. The thing is, federal law requires citizenship for voting in federal elections (and rightfully so). There is nothing in U.S. law or the Constitution that doesn't allow states/municipalities to determine their own requirements for their own elections (provided not due to race, religion and a few other protected characteristics). Actually, until the 1920s, it was quite common for non-citizens to be allowed to vote in municipal, state and even federal elections. http://www.migrationinformation.org/USfocus/display.cfm?ID=265
The ends justify the means to liberals, though. Cheapening US citizenship is a small price to pay to have a new crop of voters who will vote liberal without thinking.
What is citizenship if not the right to participate in government at any level...including voting. We need to ask ourselves seriously what the meaning of United States citizenship really is and what it takes to earn it. Following all of our laws would be a good start - and respecting those who DO follow the immigration laws and not attempt to 'jump in line' in front of them is only fair. This should be so self-evidently counterproductive and undermining as to need no response at all. Should be... *sigh*
While I think that every American citizen over the age of 16 should be able to vote, I don't agree with allowing illegal immigrants to vote even in a municipal election. Permanent residents? Maybe. Non-citizens? No.
Permanent residents are non-citizens. Please be careful with terminology, as you contradicted yourself. Illegals should be deported, but that's not the city's responsibility.
Sure, they have the ability to make these changes, but they do effectively cheapen citizenship, since one of the main perks to citizenship involves having a vote. If you give non-citizens a vote, then why even bother with getting citizenship? As an immigrant, if you choose to live here for the long term, you don't pay all of the same taxes as a non-citizen. The understanding is usually that, you pay a little more in taxes as a citizen, but you have a vote which is worth that difference. If the vote no longer is restricted to citizenship, then there's really not much point to an immigrant (legal or illegal) getting citizenship. You might as well just keep renewing your visa, pay less taxes, and then still vote in elections. That's a pretty sweet deal compared to citizenship.
Theyll even give speeches making excuses for his racism.... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqPq4AHjzU4"]Bill Clinton Explains Robert Byrd's Membership In KKK - YouTube[/ame]
How can someone who's not a recognized citizen, who's illegal by definition, cast a legal ballot, legally?
I don't think children should vote. I don't think dead people should vote. I don't think people should vote more than once. But, foreign nationals, who are in the U.S. legally, and live and work in a community should, in my humble and quite conservative opinion, have a right to vote in local elections. I have a friend, a telecommuncations engineer, in Texas legally working for a British company. I think he and his wife should be able to vote on city and school district issues. Another friend, a British citizen, lived in the U.S. from 1958 until her death in 2008. I think she should have been able to vote in local issues, too. And, I think they should all have identification to vote.
just like a liberal, wanting to give away our country to everyone else. whats next, wanting to have straight open borders and just allowing people to come on through?????? oh wait a minute liberals want that too.
It's hard for some to get something straight. Being a foreign national in the U.S. is not synonymous with being an illegal. My friend was in the U.S. quite legally for fifty years as a resident alien. Another friend is in the U.S., quite legally, working for a company in Texas. He's from Mexico and his wife is from Brazil. Only a nitwit would see this as an issue involving illegals vs. citizens.
